Scottish ''pool/pull'', ''fool/full'', ''cook''/''kook'' etc.

Do people from Scotland merge these words. Do the Scots make no distinction between [u:] and [u] using [u] for both? Damian would know this. Damian's a Scot.

This is what I had been asking on http://www.antimoon.com/forum/2004/4600-2.htm

Yeah, that's why I started this thread.

That makes sense, after all that thread is titled "Question for Americans. How do you pronounce 'roof'?" so it's not specifically about /u:/ verses /u/ nor is it about the Scottish but the American accent. Thanks for asking my question.

Depends on where you are from. Most Americans pronounce it with a /u:/ sound, but where I am from in Michigan, and hence probably elsewhere in the north, it is usually pronounced with a /u/ sound. Some people in Detroit even seem to pronounce it with a /^/ vowel.

Ryan, That's not what this threads about.

According to this http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/chimp/101/vowels/u.htm the Scots make no distinction between [u] and [u:]. So, for them ''full/fool'' ''pull/pool'', ''cook/kook'' etc. are pronounced the same.

Here's a sample of the Scottish ''pull/pool''

http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/chimp/101/vowels/pull1.wav

Here's a sample of the Scottish ''cot/caught''

http://www.ling.lancs.ac.uk/chimp/101/vowels/cot1.wav

So, I guess this answers Jim's and Tooooo's question.