Saturday, November 06, 2004, 13:48 GMT
Why do people think
World has one syllable?
It has TWO, dammit!
World has one syllable?
It has TWO, dammit!
''World'' has two syllables?
Saturday, November 06, 2004, 15:07 GMT
<<It has TWO, dammit!>>
Och....you must be a Glaswegian! ;-)
Och....you must be a Glaswegian! ;-)
Saturday, November 06, 2004, 15:22 GMT
And I suppose "whirl" has two syllables as well?
Saturday, November 06, 2004, 18:07 GMT
''And I suppose "whirl" has two syllables as well?''
It does. ''wur-ul''.
It does. ''wur-ul''.
Saturday, November 06, 2004, 18:20 GMT
Not in my dialect, son. What kind of backwater hick would pronounce it like that?
Saturday, November 06, 2004, 23:01 GMT
Winsters says:
>>Not in my dialect, son. What kind of backwater hick would pronounce it >> like that?
Apparently, enough backwater hicks pronounce whirled with two
syllables for the pronunciation to appear in the m-w online.
www.m-w.com says:
Main Entry: whirl
Pronunciation: 'hw&r(-&)l, 'w&r(-&)l
Main Entry: world
Pronunciation: 'w&r(-&)ld
In that dictionary, the & is a schwa. So the pronunciation
shown indicates that a second syllable may be present.
>>Not in my dialect, son. What kind of backwater hick would pronounce it >> like that?
Apparently, enough backwater hicks pronounce whirled with two
syllables for the pronunciation to appear in the m-w online.
www.m-w.com says:
Main Entry: whirl
Pronunciation: 'hw&r(-&)l, 'w&r(-&)l
Main Entry: world
Pronunciation: 'w&r(-&)ld
In that dictionary, the & is a schwa. So the pronunciation
shown indicates that a second syllable may be present.
Saturday, November 06, 2004, 23:37 GMT
It's 2 syllables in Canadian Pronunciation.
w+syllabic r+syllabic l+d
However a lot of people don't realize the the r, l, m and n letters in English have syllabic forms. Still I note that you have it in you ASCII alphabet
Regards, Paul V.
w+syllabic r+syllabic l+d
However a lot of people don't realize the the r, l, m and n letters in English have syllabic forms. Still I note that you have it in you ASCII alphabet
Regards, Paul V.
Monday, November 08, 2004, 00:44 GMT
One syllable for me: /we:ld/.
Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 14:56 GMT
Jim said: >>One syllable for me: /we:ld/.<<
Ditto for me, because I also use a non-rhotic accent. But however hard I tried, I could not utter it as a two-syllable word with a rhotic accent either. Sometimes I get the feeling that /r/, though definitely a consonant, can behave in the same way as a glide or a half-vowel.
Ditto for me, because I also use a non-rhotic accent. But however hard I tried, I could not utter it as a two-syllable word with a rhotic accent either. Sometimes I get the feeling that /r/, though definitely a consonant, can behave in the same way as a glide or a half-vowel.
Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 20:22 GMT
Don't feed the trolls. Isn't he the one who insists "book" is pronounced "bwauk"? He just wants to get a rise out of you.
Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 11:29 GMT
Easterner: the second syllable some people put in world doesn't
come from the r, but from the l. Look at the pronunciation
for wrinkled in the OED -- that has two syllables. The two-syllable
pronunciation of world is very similar. The second syllable consists
of a schwa followed by 'ld'.
come from the r, but from the l. Look at the pronunciation
for wrinkled in the OED -- that has two syllables. The two-syllable
pronunciation of world is very similar. The second syllable consists
of a schwa followed by 'ld'.
Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 11:50 GMT
But the /r/ here is in a different position. Anyway, being a rhotic speaker as I suppose you are, you may be right. But at any rate the second schwa must be very weak.
Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 17:05 GMT
Here's a second attempt to describe a two-syllable world to non-rhotic
speakers. The second syllable of the US 'world' is the same as the last syllable of 'spiraled.'
speakers. The second syllable of the US 'world' is the same as the last syllable of 'spiraled.'