Languages in Spain 2

Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:27 pm GMT
How can Spanish be declared an official language in the US when its constituion does not even declare English as its official language?

Therefore English is just a de facto official language of the US. Its official status lies in the hands of the states and many states including California which has the largest number of Hispanics. If Obama declares Spanish as an official language, it would be unconstitutional.

Currently, although all the official documents in the U.S. are written in English, the United States federal government does not explicitly specify an official language.

* English is an official language in these states:[11]
o Alabama (1990)
o Alaska (1998)[12]
o Arizona (2006)
o Arkansas (1987)
o California (1986)
o Colorado (1988)
o Florida (1988)
o Georgia (1986, 1996)
o Hawaii (1978)
o Idaho (2007)
o Illinois (1969)[13]
o Indiana (1984)
o Iowa (2002)
o Kansas (2007)[14]
o Kentucky (1984)
o Massachusetts (1975)[15]
o Mississippi (1987)
o Missouri (1998)
o Montana (1995)
o Nebraska (1920)
o New Hampshire (1995)
o North Carolina (1987)
o North Dakota (1987)
o South Carolina (1987)
o South Dakota (1987)
o Tennessee (1984)
o Utah (2000)
o Virginia (1981, 1996)
o Wyoming (1996)

* English and Hawaiian:
o Hawaii (1978)[16]

* English and French:
o Louisiana (1807)

* "English Plus" resolutions:
o New Mexico (1989)
o Oregon (1989)
o Rhode Island (1992, pending)
o Washington (2007-8, pending)

* None:
o In addition to the states not otherwise mentioned:
o Alaska's 1998 Official English amendment was overturned by the Alaska State Supreme Court in 2002.
o Arizona's 1988 Official English amendment was overturned by the Arizona State Supreme Court in April, 1998. It was reinstated by voters in November, 2006.
o West Virginia passed a law in 2005 but it was rescinded due to a technical flaw.

Also, English and Spanish have been official languages in Puerto Rico since 1993; from 1898 to 1952, however, it was a misdemeanor to speak Spanish in public there. English and Chamorro are the official languages of Guam and the Northern Marianas Islands. English and Samoan are the official languages of American Samoa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-only_movement#cite_note-16

French and Hawaiian have an official status but Spanish does not have.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:29 pm GMT
The Constitution can be reformed.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:30 pm GMT
How can Spanish be declared an official language in the US when its constitution does not even declare English as its official language?

Therefore English is just a de facto official language of the US. Its official status lies in the hands of the states and many states including California which has the largest number of Hispanics, declared English as its only official language. If Obama declares Spanish as an official language, it would be unconstitutional.

Currently, although all the official documents in the U.S. are written in English, the United States federal government does not explicitly specify an official language.

* English is an official language in these states:
o Alabama (1990)
o Alaska (1998)
o Arizona (2006)
o Arkansas (1987)
o California (1986)
o Colorado (1988)
o Florida (1988)
o Georgia (1986, 1996)
o Hawaii (1978)
o Idaho (2007)
o Illinois (1969)
o Indiana (1984)
o Iowa (2002)
o Kansas (2007)
o Kentucky (1984)
o Massachusetts (1975)
o Mississippi (1987)
o Missouri (1998)
o Montana (1995)
o Nebraska (1920)
o New Hampshire (1995)
o North Carolina (1987)
o North Dakota (1987)
o South Carolina (1987)
o South Dakota (1987)
o Tennessee (1984)
o Utah (2000)
o Virginia (1981, 1996)
o Wyoming (1996)

* English and Hawaiian:
o Hawaii (1978)

* English and French:
o Louisiana (1807)

* "English Plus" resolutions:
o New Mexico (1989)
o Oregon (1989)
o Rhode Island (1992, pending)
o Washington (2007-8, pending)

* None:
o In addition to the states not otherwise mentioned:
o Alaska's 1998 Official English amendment was overturned by the Alaska State Supreme Court in 2002.
o Arizona's 1988 Official English amendment was overturned by the Arizona State Supreme Court in April, 1998. It was reinstated by voters in November, 2006.
o West Virginia passed a law in 2005 but it was rescinded due to a technical flaw.

Also, English and Spanish have been official languages in Puerto Rico since 1993; from 1898 to 1952, however, it was a misdemeanor to speak Spanish in public there. English and Chamorro are the official languages of Guam and the Northern Marianas Islands. English and Samoan are the official languages of American Samoa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-only_movement#cite_note-16

French and Hawaiian have an official status but Spanish does not have.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:32 pm GMT
Obama will reform the US Constitution to include Spanish.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:33 pm GMT
<< The Constitution can be reformed. >>

You mean amended. Yes it can be but not because of the Spanish language and I do not think that the senate and the congress would open a session for the Spanish language issue to make it official when they never had one for the English language. It would be very superficial for them and not an important issue to be discussed.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:38 pm GMT
<< Obama will reform the US Constitution to include Spanish. >>

He will not be able to do it because the US constitution does not declare English or other languages as the official language of the country. English is just the de facto official language and I do not think that the states would amend their constitution to accomodate Spanish.

All I know is Mexico, Dominican Republic, and Central America are planning to make English as an official language.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:41 pm GMT
The Constitution does not recognize any languages but that can be changed . Spanish is already recognized by the Constitution of New Mexico so they can do the same at the federal level.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:43 pm GMT
Spanish is a language of poor nations. I prefere to live in an English-speaker country.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:44 pm GMT
The federal government has no power to do that just the state governments are the only ones who have that power and they would not declare Spanish as an official language just English except for Louisiana and Hawaii.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:47 pm GMT
If the Constitution is properly amended then States will cease having power in that matter. Remember that the Constitution is above each States' laws. Through American history US states diminished their autonomy so it would not be that strange.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:53 pm GMT
The US government is federal. There is a big difference between fedral and autonomy.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:55 pm GMT
It may be federal but if the Constitution of US is amended so the Governments of each State cease having power in certain matters, then they have to obey to the Federal Government.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:01 pm GMT
The US government is federal. There is a big difference between federal and autonomy.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:03 pm GMT
The federal government will not bow down to what an incoming president just to declare Spanish as an official language.
Guest   Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:03 pm GMT
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