Is this a typical New York accent?

Joey   Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:20 pm GMT
I mean the woman's accent. Well here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PS7bN6iiDU
Guest   Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:00 am GMT
Doesn't sound typical.
New Yorker   Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:27 am GMT
Yes, it is
Guest   Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:02 pm GMT
She sounds like she's from Bayonne, NJ. Most people from NYC don't talk like that anymore ... all the people who do moved to Long Island and Jersey a while ago. But yeah, it's got that sound mostly.
Guest   Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:39 pm GMT
Her accent is fake. in NYC and NJ ''doll, Dolly'' is never pronounced with a rounded vowel [Q]: it's always unrounded [A]

''dollar, doll, Dolly, involve, resolve'' always have [A] in NYC and NJ (and in the traditional General American too]
Guest   Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:15 pm GMT
Yeah, it's clearly an actress doing a caricature of the accent, but it's clear she's trying to go for that nasally NYC metro thing that seems solely limited to old people these days.
Guest   Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:35 am GMT
Damian in Edinburgh   Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:21 pm GMT
I'm trying to imagine myself standing on the Northern Line platform at King's Cross and St Pancras tube station in London waiting for the train to take me to East Finchley, and then this guy comes up to me and asks in a very American way: "Hey, buddy - which way to da Soickle Line?"

I would then politely point to the overhead indicators which quite clearly show the way to get onto the Circle line, or if I am feeling particularly helpful I would ask him where exactly he was travelling to and when he tells me it's Bond Street I would take him over to the the tube map on the wall and then show him that he would have to follow the signs to the Soickle (aka over here as the Circle) Line and then take a westbound train as far as Baker Street, where he would have to change onto a southbound Jubilee Line train which would take him direct to Bond Street which would be the first stop along from Baker Street.... but I would resist the temptation to bamboozle him with my Scottish accent by asking him how things are in New York City.
Guest   Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:09 pm GMT
"Soickle" for Circle is waaaaaaaaay old as far as accents go ... nobody but old people speak like that these days, and most of them live nowhere near NYC (retirement). But yeah, it's some real Archie Bunker stuff.
Lazar   Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:15 pm GMT
<<Her accent is fake. in NYC and NJ ''doll, Dolly'' is never pronounced with a rounded vowel [Q]: it's always unrounded [A]

''dollar, doll, Dolly, involve, resolve'' always have [A] in NYC and NJ (and in the traditional General American too]>>

Disregarding the actress's authenticity, are you sure of that? Aren't there some New Yorkers who pronounce /A:/ as a rounded vowel?
Damian in Edinburgh   Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:34 pm GMT
That American guy at King's Cross St Pancras was at least 95 years old I reckon. ;-) I still, wonder how on earth he managed the escalators on his zimmer frame, but there again, they do have lifts - sorry, I mean elevators. Anyway, what do you guys call escalators?

I had no idea that the New York accent had changed - I must have got the "soickle" thing from an old black and white film on the old movies TV channel then.
Lazar   Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:13 pm GMT
<<Anyway, what do you guys call escalators?>>

Escalators, in fact. :) On the other hand, we don't say "zimmer" here - we call those "walkers".
lexdiamondz   Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:04 am GMT
Yea, thats a fake New York accent. The New York accent HAS migrated, nowadays its heard mostly in the Outer Boroughs (Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island) or the Suburbs (Long Island, Westchester, North Jersey)

But yea, her accent is fake. The rhythm was off, and the way she pronounced "I" was wrong, in many older or stronger variations New York Dialect, the "I" is pronounced as a dipthong, and for a character her age she should have that feature as well
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Guest   Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:04 am GMT
The actress was born in NYC, but she lived and studied acting in Pittsburgh which messed up with her accent (NYC+Pittsburgh = weird mix).