Language switch in France, when will happen?

Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:22 am GMT
I'm so tired of the French. Why don't USA , AlQuaeda or someone else wipe them out with a nuclear bomb?.
Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:45 am GMT
Why don't USA , AlQuaeda or someone else wipe them out with a nuclear bomb?

I highly doubt USA would consider wiping out a country run by a jewish president and administration.
Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:27 am GMT
France is a satellite of the american/england/jews/italian mafia that rules te world.
Visitor   Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:18 pm GMT
<< Spanish fanatics should better worry about how fast Castilian is disappearing from Catalonia. >>

You forgot to mention that Castilian is fast disappearing also in Galicia, Basque, Asturia, Aragon, Leon in Spain.

In Hispanic America, it's being displaced by Amerindian languages such as Guarani, Quechua, Aymara, Quiche, Garifuna, Nahuatl, and even by Italian. But the biggest threst to it is that its variant are fast evolving into different speeches that will someday result into a macro-lanugage or new languages just like its mom latin into French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, and the soon extinct Spanish or Afrikaans from Dutch. LATINos will soon have own languages.

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Visitor   Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:27 pm GMT
<< I think that you still have colonialist mentality in France. You say that the authorities in Algeria can't make Arabic to be more used than French. That's ridiculous. Well, it already is. Every educated person in Morocco and Algeria may use English appart form French, first off, but that does not mean ARabic is not the national language. They are independent nations and are Arabic speaking, French is just a foreign language like English in France despite it is known by every educated French person. >>

Algeria
Algeria was a part of the French colonial empire for 130 years, see; French rule in Algeria. Algeria was the home to about one million pieds-noirs which later were relocated in France. French is still the most widely studied foreign language, and widely spoken (distantly followed by English), but very rarely spoken as a native language. Since independence, the government has pursued a policy of linguistic Arabisation of education and bureaucracy, with some success, although many university courses continue to be taught in French. French is also widely used in media and commerce. Algeria is the second largest French speaking country in the world. Many Algerians use French and Arabic mixed in together as a daily part of their lives.

Morocco
French serves as Morocco's primary language of commerce and economics. It is taught universally and still is widely used in education, media and government. Most educated Morrocan people are able to speak it as in Tunisia.

Tunisia
The situation in Tunisia is similar to that of Morocco. French is used widely in education (for example being the medium of instruction in the sciences in secondary school), the press, and in business, and most educated Tunisians are able to speak it. Many Tunisians mix Tunisian Arabic with French.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghreb_French


French Language in Algeria

French is a part of the standard school curriculum, and is widely understood; Ethnologue estimates indicate that 20% of the population can read and write it other sources estimate much larger percentages. Some two-thirds of Algerians have a "fairly broad" grasp of French, and half speak it as a second language. French is widely used in media and commerce. There is also a very small community of French native speakers, including pied-noirs who stayed behind, and people raised in French-speaking households. During the French colonisation, about one million French native speakers lived in Algeria. The pied-noirs developed a distinctive dialect, termed Pataouète.

English, because of its status as a global lingua franca, is taught from the first year of Middle School. However, only a tiny number of Algerians speak English, most of them younger people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Algeria
Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:31 pm GMT
Wikipedia is not a reliable source, it was manipulated by you or another francophone to make French better than it really is. Objectively speaking, French is not an official language in Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. Case closed.
Visitor   Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:38 pm GMT
Spanish is not norm in Paraguay, Peru Bolivia, and Guatemala. So fuck off hispanic dung beetle.
Visitor   Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:41 pm GMT
Wikipedia becomes an unreliable source only, when it is being manipulated by you or other hispanics to make Spanish better than it really is. Objectively speaking, French is not an official language in Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia but a DE FACTO official language. Case closed.
Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:02 pm GMT
No, a de facto official language is English in USA, but not French in Algeria because it's not used by the Government which encourages using Arabic only. Even Berber has some official status in Algeria but not French, haha. French is just a foreign language with some residual presence due to the colonial French presence in this country. Even more English is a strong competitor in Algeria so French will soon lose it's position as first foreign language there in favor of English. Sorry to delude you but that's the reality.
Visitor   Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:08 pm GMT
A language in norm is English in USA not Spanish in Peru because it's used by the Government and encourages using Quechua only. Even Aymara is a norm language in Peru but not Spanish, haha. Spanish is just a foreign language with some residual presence due to the colonial Spanish presence in this country. Even more Portuguese is a strong competitor in Peru Spanish will soon lose it's position as first foreign language there in favor of Portuguese. Sorry to delude you but that's the reality.
Visitor   Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:12 pm GMT
<< Sorry to delude you but that's the reality. >>

You licker of the Anglo-Saxon asses, the reality is English is rarely spoken in Maghreb but more widely spoken than Spanish because Spanish is being displaced by English in Morocco as the 2nd foreing language.

On the other hand French is competing neck to neck with English in Egypt, Sudan, Liberia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Gambia, and even South Africa.

But the saddest pard it French has replaced Spanish in Equatorial Guinea.
Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:13 pm GMT
The reality is that Spanish is an official language in Peru , but French isn't in Algeria. So sorry.
Nico   Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:21 pm GMT
Sorry guys but the only thing is that the officila language in France is french. No matters about anything. And if anybody wants to speak something else, or only speaking what he wants, he does not need the french government to sign anyhting on the european court to recogniez any other language. Why? Because the France does not have to decide what is official or unofficial outside of France. For political history, in france, french is the only official language for a simple reason, France like many has built her identity on the french language. So if you are french you speak french. I am from the south, my grand parents used to speak in provençal, no this is over. This is all artificial (borders, languages...). I am french 1st, no proud or unhappy. And if of course somebody wants to speak breton, occitan he can, he does not have to wait to be allowed.

France was built like because there has been to many wars in the past for such reasons like religion, languages.

Many people here are talikng about France and the use of french. But nobody is talking about the use of english in the world. If you want to do business, you definitly need to improve your english.

Personnally i don't want to speak occitan because i don't know that language and i speak french like a scottish, a welsh speaks english today.

Many reactions here are racist, stupid. You can insult each others if you want. This does not mean you understand the history of a country. I can understand why a catalan (from Spain part) wants to use his mother toungue. But on the other hand a french catalan uses french now simplu because thit's his mother toungue.

Another thing, in the Val d'Aoste the people used to speak french, it is like that, like in the italian Tirol (Tarvizio) german is spoken, like greek in the south east, and slovenian around Trieste. Deny it you want. Like in the past in Alsace a germanic language was spoken, catalan in french catalonia, Basque in country basque....
Guest   Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:42 pm GMT
So if you are french you speak french

There is not freedom of language in France? What hipocrisy, in Quebec the frogs are all the time claiming that they have the right to speak a minority language but in France they don't give a damn the minority languages (endangered most of them).
User   Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:26 pm GMT
According official statistics, in Aosta Valley people speak:

Italian (98%)
Arpitan (60%/70%)
French (8%)