French in France vs French in Quebec

Mona Lisa   Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:23 pm GMT
Which is mor euphonious to your ear?

Can a student of Parisian French quickly adopt in Montreal?

How do the Quebecois treat other francophones?
meus   Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:53 pm GMT
Montreal is bilingual city.
Maravilha   Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:41 pm GMT
People in Montreal are friendly and kind to tourists. People from Paris are unfriendly and cranky.
Mes   Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:00 am GMT
<< Montreal is bilingual city. >>

Sure, just like Ottawa and Toronto.
meus   Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:24 am GMT
<<Sure, just like Ottawa and Toronto. >>
You are wrong about Toronto:

<<While English is the predominant language spoken by Torontonians, Statistics Canada reports that other language groups are significant including Chinese and Italian. Only 1.4% of city residents claim French (Canada's other official language) as their mother tongue, and a scant few are bilingual in English and French.


[edit] Mother tongue by population
(Toronto CMA 2001)[6]

English: 2,684,195
Italian: 195,960
Chinese (not otherwise specified): 165,120
Cantonese: 145,490
Portuguese: 108,935
Punjabi: 95,950
Spanish: 83,245
Polish: 79,875
Tagalog: 77,220
Tamil: 72,715
French: 57,485
Urdu: 53,895
Greek: 50,165
Russian: 47,590
Arabic: 46,570
Persian: 46,175
German: 43,665
Vietnamese: 36,555
Korean: 36,505
Mandarin: 35,315 >>
Mes   Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:57 am GMT
You're wrong too. Majority of the English speakers in Toronto including the Allophones are functional in French.

French is taught from the first year of school whether they like it or not.
meus   Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:09 am GMT
Then all Quebec is bilingual (French/English).
Mes   Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:27 am GMT
Then all Ontario is bilingual (French/English).
mes   Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:34 am GMT
"Functional in language" is not the same as "bilingual".If you don't understand this-it's your problem.
Look at this source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Toronto
meus   Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:41 am GMT
"Functional in language" is the same as "bilingual".If you don't understand this-it's your problem.

Take note of this:
Canada is bilingual and all its citizens functions in both French and English.
Lobo   Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:34 pm GMT
meus Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:41 am GMT

''Take note of this:
Canada is bilingual and all its citizens functions in both French and English.''


Il faut vraiment n'avoir jamais voyagé au Canada pour dire des choses comme celles-là. La réalité linguistique de Toronto et celle de Montréal sont deux choses complètement différentes. Le bilinguisme à Toronto est pratiquement inexistant, ce qui n'est pas le cas à Montréal.
guess guest   Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:40 pm GMT
il y a aussi beaucoup de gens à Montréal qui parlent très mal l'anglais. contrairement aux idées reçues tout le monde n'est pas bilingue.
Jérémy   Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:06 pm GMT
+1

Some people in Quebec are bilingual, some Speak English only, some speak French only. The fact that Quebec is part of Canada does not necessarily mean that all people in Quebec speak English.
spyk   Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:05 am GMT
I find the French in France more euphonious, although the French in Quebec is easier for me to understand since I've had more exposure to it.

Quebeckers are very friendly towards other francophones, as long as you don't make fun of their dialect or culture. They tend to think of the French as being pompous, so you'll want to avoid that stereotype (if you are French).

If you've studied Parisian French, there aren't many major grammatical or vocabulary differences in Montreal, but it'll take a while to get used to the accent. Quebeckers have a bit of a twang to their speech. Their slang is mostly different as well.

Montreal is mostly bilingual English/French, but NOT entirely, as pointed out already. English is not widely or well spoken in the rest of Quebec.
All English Canadians do have to study French, but few become bilingual, or even functional in the language. This is changing though - French immersion is exploding in popularity. (More due to parental vanity than patriotism, as an aside).
Toronto is not bilingual like Montreal, but multilingual in a huge variety of languages. The census data meus gave is old, there are probably a dozen languages with over 100 000 speakers in the Toronto area by now. You could call the city "bilingual", since many, soon to be a majority, of its residents speak English and some other language. But bilingualism in a Canadian context is traditionally English/French, so the label is not used.
Loup   Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:36 am GMT
<< Il faut vraiment n'avoir jamais voyagé au Canada pour dire des choses comme celles-là. La réalité linguistique de Toronto et celle de Montréal sont deux choses complètement différentes. Le bilinguisme à Toronto est pratiquement inexistant, ce qui n'est pas le cas à Montréal. >>

Oui, les gens de Toronto sont bilingues parce que les sujets de français dans les programmes d'études au cours de la première année de l'école.