the origin of YOU SUCK THIS SUCKS ETC

YOU SUCK   Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:05 pm GMT
what is the origin of YOU SUCK everything SUCKS in american english
I know is derogatory, but is it a short form of

YOU SUCK ( you suck dick)
He SUCKS ( he sucks dick)
IT SUCKS (it sucks dick)

so you just eliminated the (dick) to make it less vulgar? and now even kids and everybody in america says IT/ HE/ SHE SUCKS?

is that the initial source of the SUCK verb?
Timothy   Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:10 pm GMT
Yes, that's exactly what it is.

However, we never THINK it any more, when we say it. We're not quietly thinking it in the background or anything. That was the ORIGIN, but it has mostly fallen off, so "SUCKS" is a free-floating idea now. "This place sucks. That website sucks." Obviously a place, a website, the weather, etc, could not really suck anything.

Nevertheless, due to its origins, it is still seen as a borderline crass word, like "crap" and "piss." Not a cuss word, but definitely not something to say in church or at someone's dinner table. You shouldn't use it around someone until you've heard them use it. For example, most of my friends use it, but my family doesn't, so I never say it around them.
i don't know   Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:27 pm GMT
<<However, we never THINK it any more, when we say it. >>

I don't know. I bet Damian and Wintereis still think (thirstily) of the original meaning...
STOP the SLANG   Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:59 pm GMT
that makes american english a very vulgar language from its roots to modern times, it seems like a bunch of cowboys with guns spitting around and saying that everything SUCKS d!ck, then Voilą... modern american english was born, and nobody thinks of d!cks anymore, they just love to SUCK at everything, you can even hear it in kids movie,

yeah that's right, Americans SUCK
no surprise american english is considered slang
Leasnam   Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:06 am GMT
I think the true origin is: you suck = you are a infantile/a baby (cf. suckle)

and it's the same origin of the word 'sucker' (He's a sucker [for anything])
Leasnam   Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:08 am GMT
<<I think the true origin is: you suck = you are a infantile/a baby (cf. suckle) >>

that should be "you are infantile"

it means that a person is so naive and green (like a baby) that they will fall for anything
blanc   Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:03 am GMT
<<However, we never THINK it any more, when we say it. >>

I don't know. I bet Damian and Wintereis still think (thirstily) of the original meaning... ***

i bet he likes it up his ass more than sucking dick