Can I be a lawyer in the States even if I have an accent?

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Tiffany   Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:14 pm GMT
<<lawyer = liar
[same pronunciation]>>

Not where I'm from....

<<I just thought it a wee bit improbable that Americans generally would be "suspicious" of and "uncomfortable" with people "perceived as strangers" and who had unfamiliar accents.>>

It is Damian :) I can't speak for all people, but hearing an accent does not faze me. I hear more foreign accents on a daily basis than accents from the US. For example, I rarely hear the "Southern accent" but I am exposed daily to the Mexican and Indian accent. Not to mention the Italian and Romanian accents (husband and his close colleagues). I'm not suspicious or uncomfortable around any of these people. I won't rule out that some sheltered people may be though - in any country.
Travis   Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:18 pm GMT
>><<lawyer = liar
[same pronunciation]>>

Not where I'm from....<<

At least here in southeastern Wisconsin, those are not homophones either, "lawyer" being ["Lo:I@`] and "liar" being ["La:I@`].
Guest   Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:18 pm GMT
well, in USA, you can be president and being stupid, so yes you can be a lawyer.
Guest   Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:19 pm GMT
<<lawyer = liar
[same pronunciation]>>

Really? Strange place you must be from.
Jane S   Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:21 pm GMT
Well, LAWYER can be pronounced as LIAR:

http://cfprod01.imt.uwm.edu/Dept/FLL/linguistics/dialect/staticmaps/q_14.html
Tiffany   Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:27 pm GMT
Where does it say "lawyer" = "liar" on that page? They only say there are two pronunciations and show where the two are prevalent. They don't say that either of those pronunciations are the same as the pronunciation of liar. In fact, the vowel sound approximates they give for either word does not sound like the vowel used in the first syllable of "liar" for me.
Mike   Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:50 pm GMT
Yeah, I don't see anywhere on the map where they list "liar" for "lawyer".
Mike   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:00 pm GMT
By the way, I pronounce "lawyer" as /lOI.@`/.
Travis   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:05 pm GMT
I don't pronounce "lawyer" as "liar", but I generally think of them as synonyms. It's just that lawyers here in Wisconsin lie so much.
Tiffany   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:08 pm GMT
I have a similar opinion. Also synonymous with "thief" in many instances (have you seen the exorbitant rates some charge?) But of course this is an altogether separate issue from pronunciation.
Lazar   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:10 pm GMT
I pronounce "lawyer" like Mike does. The two common pronunciations of "lawyer" in the US, and the two pronunciations indicated in the above survey, are (using interdialectal phonemes) /"lOI.@`/-->["lOI.@`]/["loI.@`] and ["lO.j@`]-->["lO.j@`]/["lQ.j@`]. Neither of those would be homophonous with "liar".
Greg M.   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:14 pm GMT
<<I pronounce "lawyer" like Mike does. The two common pronunciations of "lawyer" in the US, and the two pronunciations indicated in the above survey, are (using interdialectal phonemes) /"lOI.@`/-->["lOI.@`]/["loI.@`] and ["lO.j@`]-->["lO.j@`]/["lQ.j@`]. Neither of those would be homophonous with "liar".>>

What about "liar" and "lyre"? Are those homonyms for you? They're not for me.
Greg M.   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:16 pm GMT
By the way, here's my pronunciations for the following words:

lawyer - /lOI.@`/

liar - /l@I.@`/

lyre - /laI@`/
Mike   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:22 pm GMT
<<I pronounce "lawyer" like Mike does. The two common pronunciations of "lawyer" in the US, and the two pronunciations indicated in the above survey, are (using interdialectal phonemes) /"lOI.@`/-->["lOI.@`]/["loI.@`] and ["lO.j@`]-->["lO.j@`]/["lQ.j@`]. Neither of those would be homophonous with "liar".>>

I've tried saying "lawyer" as */lA.j@`/ and it does sound closer to "liar" than my actual pronunciation /lOI.@`/, but still not the same. Maybe someone was hearing that and misinterpreted it as "liar".
Mike   Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:25 pm GMT
Misheard is as being the same as "liar", that is.
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