"the ship sunk yesterday."

Milky   Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:10 am GMT
Here's a tantalising headline for "Grammarheads":

British Rescue Ship Sunk
M56   Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:16 am GMT
And here's another example of such constructions:

"China will consider Japan's request to salvage a ship sunk in its exclusive economic zone in the East China Sea in accordance with international and domestic laws, Foreign Ministry Spokesman Liu Jianchao Tuesday."

http://english.people.com.cn/200206/11/eng20020611_97635.shtml

It's quite common to omit the relative clause in news items.
Position   Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:25 am GMT
Thanks to all for your help here. Now I understand how I can use "the ship sunk yesterday".

Can I think in the same way here?

"the wine drunk"
M56   Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:20 pm GMT
FYI:

Reduced Relative Clause

This is a type of relative clause which lacks a relative adverb or pronoun. For example, "the book written by you" and "the man following us" both contain reduced relatives. The full relative equivalents are: the book which was written by you, and the man who is following us. Unlike zero relative clauses, reduced relatives contain nonfinite verbs.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/internet-grammar/glossary/r.htm
Damian in Edinburgh   Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:59 pm GMT
The Mary Rose sank just outside Portsmouth Harbour yesterday

The boat sunk just outside Portsmouth Harbour yesterday was the Mary Rose

The sinking of the Mary Rose just outside Portsmouth Harbour yesterday made the top slot in the evening news reports

The sunken Mary Rose was reported to be lying on the seabed just outside Portsmouth Harbour yesterday evening

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As reported by pigeon post news reports from King Henry VIII's Office of Communications in Hampton Court Palace, Middlesex: 20 July 1545
Guest   Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:27 pm GMT
American Heritage Dictionary:

sink (sĭngk) pronunciation

v., sank (săngk) or SUNK (sŭngk), sunk, sinkĀ·ing, sinks.

v.intr.

1. To descend to the bottom; submerge.
2.
1. To fall or drop to a lower level, especially to go down slowly or in stages: The water in the lake sank several feet during the long, dry summer.
2. To subside or settle gradually, as a massive or weighty structure.

Anyone who thinks "sunk" cannot be used as simple past is wrong.
M56   Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:22 am GMT
Good find, Damien:

The boat sunk just outside Portsmouth Harbour...
M56   Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:32 am GMT
<Anyone who thinks "sunk" cannot be used as simple past is wrong. >

Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary

sink (GO DOWN BELOW) Show phonetics
verb [I or T] sank or US ALSO sunk, sunk

Anyone from the USA, that is.

;-)
position   Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:43 am GMT
<sink (GO DOWN BELOW) Show phonetics
verb [I or T] sank or US ALSO sunk, sunk

Anyone from the USA, that is. >

Why do the Americans have two forms for the past tense?
5xm   Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:01 am GMT
It's not just Americans these days, unfortunately.
Travis   Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:52 am GMT
>>It's not just Americans these days, unfortunately.<<

Why "unfortunately"?
Uriel   Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:36 am GMT
<No, it's "the ship SANK yesterday", position. >

<<Wrong, Uriel. Wrong.

The ship sank yesterday and all its crew lost.

The ship (that was) sank yesterday belonged to...>>


What are you talking about, M56?

Usually it's "The ship sank yesterday" or "The ship was sunk yesterday."

It IS possible to say "The ship sunk yesterday was a freighter" but there you are using "sunk" more as a descriptive term than as a verb. But in that sentence fragment, that type of usage was not apparent, so I went with the most common meaning.
M56   Tue May 02, 2006 7:34 pm GMT
<but there you are using "sunk" more as a descriptive term than as a verb. >

Read the thread, Uriel.

We've already taked about reduced relative clauses (e.g. "The ship THAT WAS sunk yesterday...").

<But in that sentence fragment, that type of usage was not apparent, >

To whom? Common meaning? Who says so?