Orwell's Animal Farm - is it's title a common expression?

j   Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:06 am GMT
I'd like to ask you a question about this book's title. It was translated into my native language several times and naturally each edition had a different title, though the meaning certainly remained the same. Now I have a few questions about the original title itself.

1.Is "animal farm" a collocation, like cattle farm or cattle-ranch? Or was this combination of words "cooked" by Orwell himself?

2.Are those two words unmistakably referring us to the Orwell's work or if somebody (imagine!) had never heard about it he could've thought that it's just some farm we're talking about? In other words, wouldn't "animal farm" sound a bit odd for this poor ignorant?

3.Does the term "Animal farm" have some shades of meaning (old fashioned, for example), or is it emphatically neutral?

Thanks in advance
Brennus   Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:16 am GMT
Wikipedia has an article on "Animal Farm" which pretty much explains how the novel got its name. It says within that it is "...about a group of animals who oust the humans from the farm they live on and run it themselves..."

Please see more below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_farm

For better or for worse, it is not unusual for titles to get changed partially or totally when they get translated from one language to another. For example, there is a Turkish novel by called by Yaşar Kemal called "İnce Memed" (Literally "Slim Mehmed") but its English translation is "Memed, My Hawk ". The French translation of the title "Mehmed le Mince" is faithful to the Turkish original. Perhaps the American publisher of the book did not think the book would sell very well if it was called "Slim Mehmed."
j   Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:49 am GMT
Thank you, Brennus for quick response, but for some reason I'd like to know some specifically linguistic details that can't be found in Wikipedia. So can you answer, let's say, my first and second questions?
1. Is "animal farm" a collocation, like cattle farm or cattle-ranch? Or was this combination of words "cooked" by Orwell himself? I myself actually never seen this set of words anywhere but here, but I might be mistaken.

2.Are those two words unmistakably referring us to the Orwell's work or if somebody (imagine!) had never heard about it he could've thought it's just some farm we're talking about? In other words, wouldn't "animal farm" sound a bit odd in colloquial speech?

And thank you again for your reply.
M56   Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:00 am GMT
It is not a common collocation at all. In fact there is not one appearance of that combination in the BNC, apart from in reference to the book:

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Brennus   Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:32 am GMT
The novel is a satire about the Russian Revolution and its aftermath only animals are beng used as substitutes (or caricatures) for various human beings who were prominent in Stalinist Russia. Dictionary Dot.Com defines "satire" as : "A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit." "Animal" in English can also mean a person who behaves in a brutal or bestial manner. "Farm" in this sense is a euphamism for "country" --- the country of Russia; The Soviet Union etc. This explains its linguistic derivation, I think.

George Orwell (real name Eric Blair 1903- 1950) was a former communist sympathizer who later turned against Communism after witnessing Stalin's brutalities. He was not alone. For example, former ABC News anchorman Howard K. Smith (1914 - 2002), like Orwell, was originally a parlor pink who sympathized with communism as a college student but abandoned Communism after seeing how brutal the Stalin government in Russia really was.
j   Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:39 am GMT
Thank you, Brennus and M56. It definitely helps.
Damian in Edinburgh   Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:49 am GMT
Nothing much to be added to what's been said about Animal Farm and George Orwell. Animal Farm and 1984 are his two best known works.

Oh...I also found out that Animal Farm is, or was, the name of a kids' TV program here in Britland....all the kiddy winkies frolicking about among cute white woolly wee lambs and moo cows ready for milking and pretty pink curly tailed piggies ready to be bundled off to market to be turned into tomorrow's middle cut brekkie rashers and all that stuff.
j   Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:11 am GMT
So, "animal farm" might not necessarily bear this brutal connotation? (Brennus: "Animal" in English can also mean a person who behaves in a brutal or bestial manner"). Since a kids' TV program was named so.
Brennus   Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:12 am GMT
J,

Re: "Thank you, Brennus and M56. It definitely helps. "

You're welcome. I'm Glad that I could be of help. However you might want to wait for other comments.