chinese languages

malparididito   Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:23 am GMT
what is the easiet chinese language to learn?
cause so many persons say its japanese.
is chinese that hard to know
if it is how?
Guest   Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:25 am GMT
Japanese is not a Chinese language.
Chinese   Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:45 am GMT
malparididito

Mandarin is fairly easier than the other Chinese languages such as Minnanese(Taiwanese), Cantonese, Hakka and Wunese(Shanghainese).
Although Japanese derived from Classical Chinese, but it's not a Chinese language, it's only spoken by Japanese people, and Japanese emigrants.
Guest   Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:08 am GMT
Japanese did not derive from classical Chinese. but it does have many loan words from classical Chinese.
Chinese   Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:53 am GMT
Guest さん

どうして中国語が好きじゃないんだよ?
Guest   Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:26 am GMT
なぜ日本語で書いているのですか?私は日本人ではありません。
とにかく、私は中国語が好きかどうか関係ありません。
日本語が中国語に由来していませんよ。
Chinese   Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:22 am GMT
Guest

OK, let's talk in English, I want to tell you that, No matter if Japanese really derived from Classical Chinese, it absorbed quite a number of special things from Chinese characters and culture, Nobody can deny!
Like it or not, the truth is forever the truth. If No Chinese, then No Japanese occured.
Chinese   Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:45 am GMT
1, Chinese (regular style) 2, Chinese (grass style)= "Japanese"


<平仮名>

1, 安 2、 あ

1, 以                   2、い

1, 宇                   2、う

1, 衣                   2、え

1, 於                   2、お

1。。。                   2。。。

1。。。                   2。。。

1。。。                   2。。。

1。。。                   2。。。


<片仮名>

1, 阿              2、ア

2, 伊                    2、イ

3, 宇                    2、ウ

4, 江                    2,エ

5, 於                    2、オ

1。。。                   2。。。

1。。。                   2。。。

1。。。                   2。。。

1。。。                   2。。。


<漢字>

Too many Kanji ...More than 2,000 KanjiS...
Guest   Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:34 am GMT
Well, yes, it's true that Japan has absorbed Chinese culture and that the Japanese writing system is based on Chinese's. The grammar, phonology, and native Japanese words (大和言葉) aren't related to Chinese, though, so it's not derived from Chinese.
Chinese   Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:25 am GMT
Guest

I agree with you that Japanese grammar is very different from Chinese's, but its phonology is based on the pronunciation rules of Tang 『唐』(から) dynasty of China, especially deeply affected by Wunese 『吳語』 in ancient days. So, only the grammar and native words (大和言葉) aren't related to Chinese. But the phonology is.
sino   Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:26 am GMT
guest, chinese

"derived from" is not a correct word to describe the relationship between chinese and japanese. Acient japanese created their own writing system based on chinese wrting system. That is to say, the writing system of japanese is derived from chinese, but japanese language has existed before it owned a writing system. After japanese created their writing system, they absorbed a lot of chinese words to enrich their own language, as I indicated before, this kind of absorbing is quite similar with the relationship between French and English.
malparididito   Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:40 am GMT
Learning to speak japanese would be easier that learning to speak chinese. But when it comes to writting, both languages include Chinese characters.
Chinese   Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:21 pm GMT
Mandarin(Official Chinese): Over 1,200 Millions Population

Japanese: Over 120 Millions Population

(Chinese) 10 : 1 (Japanese) <unprecise numerical value>
Kelly   Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:25 pm GMT
Mandarin(Official Chinese): Over 1,200 Millions Population


English: over 2.000 Millions Population
(I included India, just like you included all China. ;)

And Chinese people, please stop eating dogs, try a hot dog instead.
Kelly   Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:26 pm GMT
Japanese is more melodic, and by learning it, you support democracy.
Say no to communism.