Does "A" in "hard" and "o" in

nick   Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:29 am GMT
Like "car" "cop"?
nick   Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:31 am GMT
Does "A" in "hard" and "o" in "hot" sound same? LIke "car" "cop"?
Jim   Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:32 am GMT
Not to me but it depends on your accent.
Guest   Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:32 am GMT
yes
Lazar   Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:34 am GMT
For most North Americans, "car" and "cop" use the same vowel:
car - [kAr]
cop - [kAp]

In RP, however, they use different vowels:
car - [kA]
cop - [kQp]

They also use different vowels in my own dialect:
car - [kAr]
cop - [kQp]
Uriel   Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:42 am GMT
Well, even for me they aren't a perfect match because the R distorts it a little.
Tiffany   Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:29 am GMT
Yes for me. I think I speak roughly GAE... no one has ever been able to place me (figure out where I'm from).
Dixie Gal   Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:11 pm GMT
You are from Florida :)
Aussie Fisher   Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:24 pm GMT
They're different for me.

hard - /h6:t/
hot - /hOt/

car - /k6:/
cop - /kOp/
Tiffany   Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:07 am GMT
Oh, that wasn't a challenge, more an explanation of what "place me" meant, but thanks!