Where does Xmas abbreviation come from?

Pedro   Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:48 pm GMT
Is Xmas being used in formal english? thanx
Calliope   Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:54 pm GMT
X = Christ in the protochristianic communities (from the Greek word Χριστός = Christ).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas



Μου τη δίνουν τα σπαμ... και φυσικά τα τρολς....
Jane   Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:04 pm GMT
Christmas is the true name so why should we abbreviate it? Everyone is trying to erase God from everything but Christmas is dedicated to Him, so I wouldn't feel christian if I write 'xmas'
Presley.   Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:54 am GMT
I agree 100% with you, Jane. In the U.S, store employees are discouraged from saying "Merry Christmas". They instead favor the use of the more politically correct "Happy Holidays". I'm not against political correctness, but it saddens me to see how dechristianized my surroundings are becoming. No worries, though...

However, like Calliope said, the Greek word for Christ begins with the letter "Chi", which is written like the Latin "X". So, this would mean that the abbreviation "Xmas" still has strong ties with Jesus Christ, our Savior.
Guest 2   Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:45 am GMT
Guys, don't be ridiculous. The X in the X-mas is because X is short for 'eks' or 'ks' (how it is pronounced) and has nothing to do with greek language.

According to you 'X-tra' means 'an oversized Christ', and 'X-Men' means 'Christ likes men'. Also 'X-Calibur' means 'Christ and something, something' and 'X-Files' means 'Greek Ministry of Neigborhoods'. C'mon guys, not everything around is greek...have a glass of water...
Guest 2   Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:49 am GMT
Ah, yes, all leaders all over the world right now are greek or with greek blood, and so have been all those before them, and this is how they will be after them. And the Eifel Tower is greek but it was taken from Greece by force, during the night...and also greeks own half of the oceans. Why? Because!!!
Guest   Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:11 am GMT
As Calliope wrote, in Greek, Χριστός = Christ

Hence Xmas, using the Greek initial X.
XΡ   Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:14 am GMT
Guest2 has no proof.The X-tra is a recent,market symbol
but the greek letter X for Christ is very old,proto-christianic(ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ)
The wide influence of greek culture hurts but have a glass of water...

Abbreviations used as Christian symbols have a long history in the church. The letters of the word "Christ" in Greek, the language in which the New Testament was written, or various titles for Jesus early became symbols of Christ and Christianity. For example, the first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Chrismons), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official standard of the emperor Constantine.

Xian and Xianity(What does they mean X-tra,Ultra Christian? LOL :-)

http://www.crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html
XP   Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:19 am GMT
and Christ is the English form of the Greek word Χριστός (Christós), which means literally The Anointed One( χρίω,chrio = anoint)

Chrism (Greek word Χρίσμα,Chrisma literally meaning "an anointing"), also called "Myrrh (Myron)," "Holy Oil," or "Consecrated Oil," is a consecrated oil used in the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox churches, in the Assyrian Church of the East, in the Old-Catholic churches, and in Roman Catholic, Anglican and Lutheran churches in the administration of certain sacraments and ecclesiastical functions.
XXL - Jesus had a big one   Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:16 am GMT
This is so funny...guys, you are killing me...stop disinforming the world. What stories are you telling now? In the case of X-mas, the X is a recent added letter, short for 'eks' or better 'ks'. Americans have a mania about shortening words and names and the same in this case. Christ - 'cs' - the same as 'ks' - the same as 'X'.

Sorry to end you fantasies, but that's the real story. It is more something that came from practicality and as a marketing tool, commercialized term - it fits better in the products (smaller that writing the whole word); it is shorter and it delivers the message faster, it is more attractive to younger generations when things take the form of codes (the same goes for computer games, etc). In a word, it's just another business tool in the time of huge shopping season.

Happy Holidays to all of you and Merry Christmas!
XP   Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:25 am GMT
That is before the merchantilization of Christmas
Xmas is more easy and fascinating

Xmas was being usued long before

by the fifteenth century Xmas emerged as a widely used symbol for Christmas. In 1436 Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press with moveable type. In the early days of printing typesetting was done by hand and was very tedious and expensive. As a result, abbreviations were common. In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). Even Webster’s dictionary acknowledges that the abbreviation Xmas was in common use by the middle of the sixteenth century.

http://www.crivoice.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html
Jason   Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:51 am GMT
Xmas Look up Xmas at Dictionary.com
"Christmas," 1551, X'temmas, wherein the X is an abbreviation for Christ in Christmas, from first letter of Gk. Christos "Christ" (see Christ). The earlier way to abbreviate it was Xp- or Xr-, corresponding to "Chr-," and the form Xres mæsse for "Christmas" appears in the "Anglo-Saxon Chronicle" (c.1100).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Xmas
Christ's Mass.

Whether Christmas you write or Xmas they are half Greek,half Germanic Anglo-Saxon :)
Guest   Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:16 pm GMT
In Cyrillic an alphabet emanated from Greek these two letters are also the same HR XP(ICTOC)
Lingua   Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:24 pm GMT
In the animated television show Futurama, which is set in the 31st century, Xmas is the official name for the day formerly known as Christmas (which has become an "archaic pronunciation").

So the future is with Xmas :)
Calliope   Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:52 pm GMT
Isn't ignorance a funny thing? Not everything is Greek, of course. It just so happen that the ΧΡ symbol for Christ and the fish (for Christ again) used by the protochristians, are indeed Greek. It also so happens that Paul started his christianising from Greece. Sorry, can't change that, and I wouldn't mind at all if Paul had started off in Albania and we used Albanian symbols today, but he didn't. Don't like it?When you see him, make sure to complain.

Merry Xmas to all.

(Just please don't pronounce it "eksmas", as the guy who implied a connection with 'xtra' etc apparently suggests... ;-) )


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