What will Latin gain me?

F   Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:26 pm GMT
Latin is the mother romance language
Guest   Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:02 pm GMT
Are latin and modern romance languages actually intellegible? Probabily it is more intellegible with one than with other, I don't know...let's try...Would you like to translate this sentences?

1. Cum Romani Italiam totam cepererunt, Latina lingua praecipua in Italia facta est; Romani autem Graecam linguam discere solebant et ea uti amabant cum Graecae litterae ad honestarum gentium culturam pertinerent.

2. Asia continens est in terra occidentali situs. Continens maximus mundi est, pars continentis Eurasiae. Deserta sunt in Asia Arabia, Gobi. Plerique homines ominum civitatum (nationum) Sinam incolunt (33% continentis). Religio Buddhistica et religio Hinduistica popularae sunt.

3. Philippinae sunt in insulis collectis compositae. Sunt plus quam septem milia insulae in Philippinis. Omnis terra est plus centem pedem milia. Equidem, Philippinae claustrabatur Pacifico Oceano. Indonesia stat canceri; Indochina stat occasu; Taiwan stat aquilo. Manila, urbs princeps portaque, est locus in Luzon insula. Quamquam Manila non est magna urbs in Philippinis; Urbs Quezon est suburb Manilae, et habet plurimos incoluntes, in linguae ipsarum "Pilipinos" appellantur. Phillipinae sunt fervens umidaeque.

Please! don't use any dictionary, only use your intuition!
Cro Magnon   Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:16 pm GMT
"Latin is the mother romance language "

Many Latin students will agree that Latin is a mother. :)
F   Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:16 pm GMT
99% of the words are etymologically in most romance languages
Josh Lalonde   Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:35 pm GMT
While nearly all the words above will be recognizable to Romance-language speakers, the sentences will be hard to translate precisely for a few reasons
1) Latin had an elaborate case system that survived only in Romanian, and only in a vestigial form
2) Latin had free word order due to the case markings, while modern Romance languages all have fairly strict word orders, so figuring out who did what to whom with what will be difficult.
3) Certain verb systems in Latin were replaced with auxiliaries in the modern Romance languages, meaning that tenses are difficult to translate.
4) The ancestor of the modern Romance languages was not Classical Latin, as written here (which was probably never actually spoken), but Vulgar Latin, which often had different vocabulary or grammar than Classical.
As a whole, Romance speakers will be able to give a pretty good summary of what the passage is about, but not its exact details. (I'm not going to give my attempt, because I've taken Latin)
As for what Latin will gain you: nothing in particular. Learning a language always gains you something though; a new way of looking at something maybe. If you are looking for a practical use, Latin is probably not for you, but Latin is the language in which many of the most important texts of Western history/culture were written. It can also help with etymologies or just knowing what words mean in English, for example.
Guest   Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:48 pm GMT
ENGLISH:
Let us eat, drink and be merry! There is no pleasure after death.

LATIN:
Edamus, Bibamus, Gaudeamus! Post mortem nulla voluptas.

SPANISH:
Comamos, Bebamos, Gocemos! Tras la muerte no habrá (ningún) placer.

ITALIAN:
Mangiamo, Beviamo, Godiamo! Che tanto dopo la morte non si gode più.
F   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:28 pm GMT
voluptuosidad spanish (lust)
volupta italian

post,nulla international words

edablie i think in english means eatable
Rolando   Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:56 pm GMT
Wow, I guess in leaning latin will gain you to be able to learn all the romance languages ;-)
Guest   Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:44 pm GMT
you don't need Latin for that
Guest   Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:59 pm GMT
Proverbs in Latin and Spanish. Enjoy.

A mari usque ad mare -Latin
Del mar al mar -Spanish

Abusus non tollit usum -Latin
El abuso no elimina el uso -Spanish

Amici, diem perdidi -Latin
amigos, he perdido un día / perdí un día -Spanish

Acta est fabula -Latin
Esto fue una fábula -Spanish

Esse est deus -Latin
Ser es dios -Spanish

Sol lucet omnibus -Latin
El Sol luce para todos -Spanish

Quid facis hic? -Latin
Qué haces aquí? -Spanish

Aquila non capit muscas -Latin
El águila no atrapa moscas -Spanish

Cogito ergo sum -Latin
Pienso luego soy -Spanish

Gaudeamus igitur iuvenes dum sumus -Latin
Gocemos (pues) mientras somos jóvenes -Spanish

Intelligenti pauca -Latin
A los inteligentes, pocas -Spanish

Labor omnia vincit -Latin
El labor todo lo vence -Spanish

Cura te ipsum! -Latin
Cúrate a tí mismo! -Spanish

Nosce te ipsum -Latin
Conocete a ti mismo -Spanish

Prima in tempore, prima in iure -Latin
Primero en tiempo, primero en derecho -Spanish

Primum vivere, deinde philosophari -Latin
Primero vivir, después filosofar -Spanish

Pro Mundi beneficio -Latin
Por el beneficio del mundo -Spanish

Sic transit gloria mundi -Latin
Así pasa la gloria del mundo -Spanish

Ira furor brevis est -Latin
La ira es breve locura -Spanish

Laborare est orare -Latin
Laborar es orar -Spanish

Mens sana in corpore sano -Latin
Mente sana en cuerpo sano -Spanish

Montani Semper Liberi -Latin
Los montañeros son Siempre Libres -Spanish

Sol et luna semper te salutant -Latin
El sol y la luna siempre te saludan -Spanish

Mors Certa, Vita Incerta -Latin
La muerte es cierta, la vida no es -Spanish

Nec Hercules contra duos -Latin
Aun Hércules contra dos -Spanish

Nemo saltat sobrius -Latin
Nadie baila sobrio -Spanish

Nihil sine deus -Latin
Nada sin dios -Spanish

Nil admirari -Latin
No admirar nada -Spanish

Nunc est bibendum -Latin
Ahora es tiempo para beber -Spanish

Ora et labora -Latin
Ora y labora -Spanish

Orbis non sufficit -Latin
El mundo no es suficiente -Spanish

Pacem in terris -Latin
La paz en la Tierra -Spanish

Pax melior est quam bellum -Latin
La paz es mejor que la guerra -Spanish

Peior est bello timor ipse belli -Latin
Peor que la guerra es el temor de la guerra -Spanish

Quid est veritas? -Latin
Qué es verdad? -Spanish

Quota hora est? -Latin
Qué hora es? -Spanish

Quid cogitas? Debemus loqui latine? Ita! Semper!
Qué piensas? Debemos hablar latín? Sí! Siempre!

Quomodo vales? -Latin
Cómo estás? Cómo te va? -Spanish

Quid agis? -Latin
Que hay? -Spanish

Edamus, bibamus, gaudeamus -Latin
Comamus, bebamos, gocemos -Spanish