Mary-marry-merry merger

Lo   Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:42 am GMT
I don't think I have the merger but my Marys and merrys sound the exact same, however marry sounds totally different.

Mary and merry: /mEri/
Marry: /m{ri/

When I say married though, I get a broad-A so it sounds something like /mAri/ but not exactly like that, anybody knows why's that??
Sho   Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:06 am GMT
Where are you from, Lo??
Christopher Kevin ta Crow   Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:19 am GMT
If I have it right, I think this might make the difference between the three vowels clear:

---> Mary (I) met (II) the cat (III).
---> Mary (I) was a scary (I) fairy (I).
---> When (II) on the ferry (II) to Derry (II), Terry (II) was merry (II).
---> The cat (III) carried (III) Harry (III) and Barry (III).

As I grew up with a dialect in which the vowels for "Mary," "merry," and "marry" are identical, I'm very interested in whether those who've been raised to distinguish them see my analysis as accurate. Since I'm marrying a girl named Mary, and we're both quite happy, it's especially appropriate.
Lazar   Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:31 am GMT
Yes, as a native 3M-distinguisher from Massachusetts, I agree with your analysis. I use these phonemes:

/E@`/ found in "Mary", "fair" (I)
/E/ found in "merry", "get" (II)
/{/ found in "carry", "cat" (III)

Here's how I would transcribe my pronunciation of those sentences in X-SAMPA:

["mE@`.i %mEt D@ "k_h{t]
["mE@`.i w@z @ "skE@`.i "fE@`.i]
[wEn "Q:n D@ "fE.r\i 4@ "dE.r\i "t_hE.r\i w@z "mE.r\i]
[D@ "k_h{t "k_h{.r\id "h{.r\i @n "b{.r\i]