Greek and Spanish comparison

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Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:06 am GMT
A todos los hablantes del español, escuchad ésta canción en Griego y estaréis sorprendidos cuán semejantes en realidad son.

Antique - Follow me (greek song)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JKSWCR92BBY
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:22 am GMT
OMG, that sounded like spanish but with different words, seriously if I had heard someone talking in greek really far away I would've thought is was spanish.
K. T.   Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:52 am GMT
Hey, that's what I've been saying. It's scary. The music of the language fools you at a distance.

In the song you hear "Spanish" words, but the whole thing doesn't make sense.
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:41 am GMT
Todo aquel que piense que el griego y el español son distintas lenguas en realidad no sabe ni jota de qué se trata. El griego es un código ingenioso establecido hace siglos por los cruzados españoles.
Calliope   Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:57 am GMT
"Todo aquel que piense que el griego y el español son distintas lenguas en realidad no sabe ni jota de qué se trata. El griego es un código ingenioso establecido hace siglos por los cruzados españoles. "

Please someone translate, I think my poor grasp of Spanish is playing a joke on me...
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:01 am GMT
Bueno, lo traduciré para los gringos y los gabachos.

Greek and Spanish have historic conections, very enigmatic, actually.
K. T.   Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:22 am GMT
Bueno, lo traduciré para los gringos y los gabachos.

Greek and Spanish have historic conections, very enigmatic, actually.-Guest

LOL! That's not what it said in Spanish, but I'll agree that it is a bit enigmatic.
Calliope   Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:29 am GMT
"LOL! That's not what it said in Spanish, but I'll agree that it is a bit enigmatic. "

That's what I figured as well with my poor Spanish, but I thought I'd wait to confirm it before I started laughing. :)
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:08 am GMT
OïL
<<<"On prétend que des mots germaniques (comme <guerre>/<guerra>/<war>) sont entrés dans les langues romanes après la chute de l'empire romain. Mais on les trouve dans TOUS les dialectes italiens et ibériques, même là où les Germains ne sont jamais passés! Conclusion: ces mots faisaient partie depuis déjà des siècles de la langue parlée dans tout l'Empire. " >>>

Very interesting - how could it have happened that Germanic words and grammar entered and influenced vernacular Latin centuries before Caesar? Was there some undocumented Germanic migration already operating so early? Slaves perhaps, or soldiers?
Adolfo   Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:20 pm GMT
I don't know how they teach the Spanish Reconquista in Canada and another countries, but it was not so bloody and full of intolerance. Take into account that Northern Spain was overpopulated in these days, so they had to conquer territories to the Moors , Saracens, or whatever term you want to use to name them, if they wanted to survive, but there was a relative tolerance between both sides, and cultural exchanges of many kinds. Of course on the long term, only one of them would end up being the dominant culture of all Spain, because both cultures were too different to mix and merge into a single one. After the Christians conquered all Spain, the Moors WERE ALLOWED to stay in Spain and keep their religion. The same did not happen with the Jews, but that is another matter. Most of the defeated Moors ended up migrating to Morocco and Algeria because they considered dishonourable to live between christians , and the the few who remained were definitely expelled from Spain, but that happened two centuries after the Reconquista concluded in 1492.
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:53 pm GMT
"I don't know how they teach the Spanish Reconquista in Canada and another countries"

This is a good one. In Canada or the USA most of the population don't even have a clue where Spain is.

But I agree with the guy who said that without the Spanish Reconquest Europe (and thus the American continent) would have been a very different place.
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:47 pm GMT
<<But I agree with the guy who said that without the Spanish Reconquest Europe (and thus the American continent) would have been a very different place. >>

Please be aware that not the Spanish Reconquista stopped the Saracens to conquer Europe but the Germanic Franks under Karl Martel to Karl the Great!
Josh Lalonde   Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:11 pm GMT
Let's keep this thread on topic. I don't want to have to delete all those posts about the Reconquista, etc. (including my own).
Guest   Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:07 pm GMT
"but the Germanic Franks under Karl Martel to Karl the Great!"
What ?!?!?! The Reconquest lasted 700 years!!!

"I don't want to have to delete all those posts "

Go to hell, Josh, you are most obnoxious host in the whole internet. I am tempted to attack your site just for the fun of it!!! Don't push your luck
Adolfo   Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:18 pm GMT
In fact the Saracents , the Muslims, the Moors or however you call them, tried to conquer Europe many times. Apart from the Reconquista, Spain was involved in the battle of Lepanto against the Otoman Empire in the XVI century, which was decisive in the European History. I know this is off-topic, but I considered important to note it.
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