To the English people here: Celtic or Anglo-Saxon bloodline?

Guest   Sun May 25, 2008 1:41 pm GMT
What does mongrel mean? Mongoloid?
Wintereis   Sun May 25, 2008 7:08 pm GMT
Guest, a mongrel is a term usually used to describe a dog of mixed or indeterminate breed. Betty is using it to insinuate that I am multiracial or that I do not come from an aristocratic blood lines. Neither of these insinuations is true, however. But since you seem to want to now, Betty. And in no particular order. . .

Atwood: First found in the county of Salop where they held a family seat from very ancient times, and had retained their estates despite the Norman invasion of England by Duke William of Normandy in 1066 A.D.

Margaret Atwood: Canadian Novelist, Poet, and Critic

New: First found in Cambridgeshire, where the family held seat from early times, some say before the Norman conquest of England by Duke William of Normandy in 1066 A.D.

Willard: First found in the county of Sussex where they were Lords of the Manor of Eastborn, being granted lands by King William the Conqueror for their assistance at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 A.D.

Groves: First found in Essex where they were seated from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D.

Sir. Charles Groves: British Philharmonic Conductor
Sir George Grove: Author of the Grove's Dictionary of Music

Booth: First found in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, some say before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D.

Edwin Thomas Booth: American Shakespearian actor.
John Wilkes Booth: American Actor and the assassin who shot President Lincoln
Shirley Booth: acclaimed Tony Award, Academy Award, Emmy Award, and Golden Globe and Cannes award-winning actress.

Gould: First found in Suffolk where they held a family seat since early times.

Glenn Gould: Canadian pianist noted for his recordings of the music of Johann Sebastian Bach.

Record: First found in Berkshire where they where they were anciently seated as Lords of the Manor.

Other than that I have some Austrian blood.
Now, my nephews on the other hand are half Polynesian:
http://www.polyad.com/images/pccroyalty.jpg

My cousin Mikela has Aztec ancestry:
http://www.firstpeople.us/pictures/art/1024x768_Pictures/Aztec_Indian_Window_Rock_New_Mexico-1024x768.jpg

and three other cousins have Lakota ancestry:
http://www.rmi-realamerica.com/images/Features/American%20Indian/Go%20Native%20America/Lakota%20Moon_large.jpg

http://www.nativeamericans.com/LakotaWoman.jpg

So, no I am not a mongrel as you put it. We don’t put much stock in pedigree in the U.S. We consider personal achievement far more important. And using such terminology as mongrel to refer to a human is abhorrent.
Wintereis   Sun May 25, 2008 7:12 pm GMT
Guest, a mongrel is a term usually used to describe a dog of mixed or indeterminate breed. Betty is using it to insinuate that I am multiracial or that I do not come from an aristocratic blood lines. Neither of these insinuations is true, however. But since you seem to want to now, Betty. And in no particular order. . .

Atwood: First found in the county of Salop where they held a family seat from very ancient times, and had retained their estates despite the Norman invasion of England by Duke William of Normandy in 1066 A.D.

Margaret Atwood: Canadian Novelist, Poet, and Critic

New: First found in Cambridgeshire, where the family held seat from early times, some say before the Norman conquest of England by Duke William of Normandy in 1066 A.D.

Willard: First found in the county of Sussex where they were Lords of the Manor of Eastborn, being granted lands by King William the Conqueror for their assistance at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 A.D.

Groves: First found in Essex where they were seated from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D.

Sir. Charles Groves: British Philharmonic Conductor
Sir George Grove: Author of the Grove's Dictionary of Music

Booth: First found in Yorkshire where they were seated from very ancient times, some say before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D.

Edwin Thomas Booth: American Shakespearian actor.
John Wilkes Booth: American Actor and the assassin who shot President Lincoln
Shirley Booth: acclaimed Tony Award, Academy Award, Emmy Award, and Golden Globe and Cannes award-winning actress.

Gould: First found in Suffolk where they held a family seat since early times.

Glenn Gould: Canadian pianist noted for his recordings of the music of Johann Sebastian Bach.

Record: First found in Berkshire where they where they were anciently seated as Lords of the Manor.

Other than that I have some Austrian blood.
Now, my nephews on the other hand are half Polynesian:
http://www.polyad.com/images/pccroyalty.jpg

My cousin Mikela has Aztec ancestry:
http://www.firstpeople.us/pictures/art/1024x768_Pictures/Aztec_Indian_Window_Rock_New_Mexico-1024x768.jpg

and three other cousins have Lakota ancestry:
http://www.rmi-realamerica.com/images/Features/American%20Indian/Go%20Native%20America/Lakota%20Moon_large.jpg

http://www.nativeamericans.com/LakotaWoman.jpg

So, no I am not a mongrel as you put it. We don’t put much stock in pedigree in the U.S. We consider personal achievement far more important. And using such terminology as mongrel to refer to a human is abhorrent.
Guest   Mon May 26, 2008 2:59 am GMT
What a fool. Who cares what your ancestors did? Does that make you better? Ha ha, it makes you a failure to live up to the expectations if nothing worse!
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Damiam in Edinburgh   Mon May 26, 2008 7:29 pm GMT
This has been a holiday weekend in the UK (the Spring Bank Holiday in official terms) so it's back to work first thing tomorrow morning, but as I went down to Leeds (Yorkshire) early in the weekend and then a flying visit down to North Wales (Anglesey, or Ynys Mon as the Welsh call it) and I have now just arrived back home in Scotland, I am once again imbued with the irresistible spirit of Celtic brotherhood.

Picture the scene here in the YT clip from Murrayfield (the rugby ground is not much more that three miles from where I live in West Edinburgh) -the game between Scotland and Wales - before the game the anthems are always sung out with Celtic passion.

The Welsh do it in their own Language (Hen Wlad fyn Nhadau - Land of My Fathers) while we Scots use English for O Flower of Scotland.

The commentary incidentally was in French, so never accuse Murrayfield of being anything other than International! Actually we can hear the roar of the crowd from our house, especially when the wind is in the east.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjP-h9wfITQ&feature=related