The Antimoon ASCII Phonetic Alphabet

Jim   Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 07:16 GMT
I'm not here to discuss the pros and cons of it. We've done that. Tom suggested that we could agree to dissagree. Tom, I can agree to that.

What I want to suggest is that we make use of it. There are posts all about with pronunciation attempted using the plain 26 letter version of the Roman alphabet without any explanation of what people mean.

My advise: use http://www.antimoon.com/how/pronunc-ascii.htm it makes things much clearer.
Tom   Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 12:39 GMT
My thoughts exactly. It doesn't help when each post uses a different ad-hoc transcription scheme.
Ryan   Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 16:34 GMT
I prefer to use SAMPA, as it is more universally used. I'll provide links to SAMPA guides whenever I post on pronunciation.
Jim Łąçæðøŋ Ŷλ&#9   Thursday, October 23, 2003, 02:31 GMT
SAMPA (Speech Assessment Methods Phonetic
Alphabet) would work too. The trouble is that some times you want a phonemic transcription and sometimes you want a phonetic one. Both SAMPA and the Antimoon ASCII phonetic alphabet are basically phonetic ones. Still, they can be used as phonemic ones by using // instead of [].

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/home.htm

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/english.htm
Tom   Thursday, October 23, 2003, 12:26 GMT
Jim,
Antimoon ASCII is PHONEMIC with a few exceptions to make it suitable for English learning.
Jim   Friday, October 24, 2003, 05:21 GMT
Tom,

Actually, you're right, it is. I stand corrected. Though, you have called it "The ASCII Phonetic Alphabet". Perhaps that's was what was throwing me, no excuse really, though, because if you look at it, you find that, yes, it is indeed phonemic. I should think before I write.

Should you change it's name? The name makes sense, let's face it, how many learners will have heard the word "phonemic"? It would be likely to scare the living whatsername out of them, "phonetic" is bad enough.

Anyway, here's some asciibets which are phonetic (a more thorough look at SAMPA included) not that I want to discourage folks from using Antimoon's Phonemic ASCII Alphabet but sometimes you want something phonetic as well as something phonemic.

http://www.cs.brown.edu/~dpb/ascii-ipa.html
Tom   Friday, October 24, 2003, 18:30 GMT
Jim,

Yeah, exactly what I thought -- "phonemic" sounds too scary.
Besides, phonemic transcription is a TYPE of phonetic transcription, according to some sources.

Thanks for your input.
To All   Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 08:02 GMT
Please use it.