Natural numbers

Tom   Friday, April 22, 2005, 22:11 GMT
I have a question for native speakers:
Were you taught at school what "natural numbers" are?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Someone   Friday, April 22, 2005, 22:13 GMT
We were taught they were positive integers.
Deborah   Friday, April 22, 2005, 22:16 GMT
Positive integers or whole numbers, but not natural numbers.
andre in south africa   Friday, April 22, 2005, 22:25 GMT
Ack!! Just figured it out. This is THE Tom, the man who created this great forum! The star gave you away Tom! Multicolour too, while mjd has to settle for a greyish star... Anyway, glad to meet you, doing a great job here! :)
Deborah   Friday, April 22, 2005, 22:28 GMT
What I meant was, I don't recall learning the term "natural numbers" when I was in school (1955-1967).
Kirk   Friday, April 22, 2005, 23:02 GMT
I don't know what a "natural" number is. We learned about positive, negative, even those crazy imaginary numbers, but I don't remember hearing about anything called "natural" numbers. What are they?
Lazar   Friday, April 22, 2005, 23:26 GMT
They taught us in school that natural numbers are positive integers or "counting numbers" (1, 2, 3, etc).

Finally I get to see the mythical Tom! I thought you would just have a normal star like mjd. :-)
Frances   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 06:30 GMT
Lazar is right - positive whole numbers

and while we are at it, the Arabs introduced the "number" zero which I think was considered heretical by the Church and they tried to stop its introduction.
greg   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 07:18 GMT
In French, all numbers belonging to N = {0, 1, 2, ...} are called 'whole naturals' = Fr <entiers naturels>.
Tae won   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 07:31 GMT
In Korea I learned "natural number", when, I think, I was in a first year middle shool.

"[n] the number 1 and any other number obtained by adding 1 to it repeatedly."
Tae won   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 07:34 GMT
oh no it's when I was a elementry student...long long ago wow I forgot when I learned.
Michal Ryszard Wojcik   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 13:33 GMT
What was the school name for positive integers? I doubt that the name "positive integers" could be used in front of school kids without talking about "integers" first, which would include also negative numbers.
Chamonix   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 16:37 GMT
Natural numbers in Europe are equivalent to Integer numbers in the US.
Ben   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 16:48 GMT
Natural numbers:
The infinite set N = {1, 2, 3, ... }
Sometimes 0 is included N' = {0, 1, 2, 3, ...} but usually, 0 is not considered a natural number.
Someone   Saturday, April 23, 2005, 17:48 GMT
"In French, all numbers belonging to N = {0, 1, 2, ...} are called 'whole naturals' = Fr <entiers naturels>."

Those would be called "whole numbers" in English.