a simple question

alex   Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:44 am GMT
Hi, here is my question : Can I say "To hold this position (example : doctor), you need to study in this field" Is it right to say that ?
Thank you
guest   Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:38 am GMT
you can, but I would say: "To be a doctor, you need to study..."
or
"To be accepted in this position, ..."

"holding a position" can mean a variety of things, but a profession like being a doctor is not usually thought of as one of them. "holding a position" connotates a temporary state, but it can be used the way you mention above. it just sounds odd.
Guest   Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:44 am GMT
Whoa! I read that question in a different way.

"In order to have that opinion, you need to have studied medicine."
guest   Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:56 am GMT
<<Whoa! I read that question in a different way.

"In order to have that opinion, you need to have studied medicine." >>

Right, when we hear "hold [a] position" we usually think of 'having an opinion' but I didn't want to go down that lengthy road...
alex   Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:57 am GMT
ok thank you ! but can I say "to hold the function of..." ?
RayH   Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:37 pm GMT
>but can I say "to hold the function of..." ?

In general no. As far as I know you can only say "To be a ..." or "To become a ..."

Examples:
To be an engineer you have to have taken the required course of study.
To become an engineer you have to take the required course of study.

To be a doctor you have to have graduated [from] medical school.
To become a doctor you have to graduate [from] medical school.

To be a plumber you have to have completed an apprenticeship.
To become a plumber you have to complete an apprenticeship.

There may be specific circumstances where you could say what you are suggesting but I can't think of any at the moment. In everyday speech you suggestion would sound very awkward and forced to native speakers.
alex   Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:42 pm GMT
Ok Thank you