Collocating the adjective "complicate".

MollyB   Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:19 am GMT
Which nouns would you say collocate with "complicate" (the adjective)?

e.g.

adj. + noun

complicate structure
Skippy   Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:01 am GMT
Do you mean complicated? Because that could be used with many things... "That question is complicated" for example.
MollyB   Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:24 am GMT
Do you mean complicated?

No, I mean "complicate", the adjective.
Guest   Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:25 am GMT
Well, that adjective is rare.
MollyB   Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:34 am GMT
<Well, that adjective is rare. >

And? Does that mean we can't talk aboutvit?
devu   Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:39 am GMT
It is not rare. It is in use
Guest   Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:43 am GMT
Yes, it is rare.
MollyB   Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:19 am GMT
<Yes, it is rare.>

In which field?
MrPedantic   Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:40 pm GMT
"Complicate" (adj.) with the sense "interwoven", "compound" or "complex" is archaic, according to OED. You might encounter it in a C17 or C18 text, or in the works of a deliberately archaic stylist such as Pater.

"Complicate" (adj.) in the botanical or entomological sense, on the other hand, where it relates to certain "folded" aspects of an organ, would tend to occur only in a formal taxonomic description, or in e.g. a dichotomous key.

All the best,

MrP
Guest   Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:29 pm GMT
<<In which field?>>

Almost all of them.
Pos   Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:55 am GMT
I think Mr P forget to answer the thread question:

<<Which nouns would you say collocate with "complicate" (the adjective)? ><
Guest   Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:00 am GMT
Not marked as archaic here.

ADJECTIVE: (-kt)1. Complex, intricate, and involved. 2. Biology Folded longitudinally one or several times, as certain leaves or the wings of some insects.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/11/C0531100.html


I guess we in the USA use it and the Brits don't.
MollyB   Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:16 am GMT
One would think that "Folded longitudinally one or several times, as certain leaves or the wings of some insects." implies "Complex, intricate, and involved".
Guest   Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:20 am GMT
Not really. They couldn't be further apart. A lot of good it will do a biologist if they're trying to identify an insect and their text book just says "their wings are complex" haha. The bio definition is a description of objective reality, the other is objective and less specific.
Guest   Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:21 am GMT
*the other is SUBJECTIVE and less specific...