Why didn't Spanish become an official language?

Super Korean   Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:10 pm GMT
Did Spanish educate Mexican, Guatemalan, Peruvian and other Latin Americans?

Was Spanish already a predominant language by the time of Latin American revolutions in the early 19th century?
Guest   Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:20 pm GMT
porque USA no interumpió su historia, lo que si hizo en Filipinas. Si no hubiese sido invadida por USA, ahora entre el 80 y 95% hablaria Español y por supuesto como lengua materna.

Those damn Anglo-Saxons, they are the leeches of the world.
Shame on Britain for spreading their bloody genes.
Adolfo   Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:57 pm GMT
Lo importante no es el pasado sino el presente. En Filipinas se está trabajando por recuperar el español, empezando por la presidencia. Gloria Arroyo es una defensora a ultranza del español, y quiere que se use en Filipinas. ¿Será correspondido ese interés por España? Filipinas ha pedido dinero a nuestro país, porque no dispone de los recursos necesarios, pero posiblemente Zapatero vea más prioritario destinarlo a impulsar el catalán o el vascuence.
Mortimer   Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:20 pm GMT
Because is a language of stupid people. Low Q.I.
Guest   Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:03 pm GMT
Spanish cannot compete. It is a very weak language.

In Sardinia it was for centuries official in the administration and was used as a common medium since various mutually unintelligible Italian and Sardinian dialects (Gallurese, Logodurese etc.) were spoken on the island.
When Italian was made official after 1860 Spanish vanished at once without leaving any trace (except for a few toponyms like Iglesias).

On the other hand a small Catalan speaking community has survived in Alghero.

Even on Spanish mainland, Spanish is being substituted by Catalan in the richest province of Spain.

Each time people are given a choice Spanish loses.
I hate spam   Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:06 pm GMT
When people evolve then abandon Spanish.
Guest   Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:24 pm GMT
Nice try, Mon ami!

However, the language that is in free fall, in the larger decline is French, of course.

Countries where WAS official French and now NO: Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Mauritania. Tunisia, Algeria, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Louisiana (USA), Maurice, etc

Countries where French and ENGLISH are official: Rwanda, Cameroon, Canada, Seychelles, Madagascar, etc. The most powerful language always wins. So, French will disappear in these countries.

Countries where French and ARABIC are official: Djibouti, Tchad, Comores, Niger (recognized regional language), etc. The most powerful language always wins. So, French will disappear in these countries.

Countries where French is the first language of the country: ONLY France and Monaco.

Ufff! I see a black future for your language, mon ami!
Cascarrabias   Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:14 pm GMT
Yes, spanish is dead and english is its common language but it doesn't make philippines more 'english' . They are much more linked with the hispanic world by traditions than the english one:
Las Flores de Mayo festival - Reynas
a . Divina pastora
b . Reyna de las Estrellas
c . Rosa Mystica
d . Reyna Paz
e . Reyna de las Propetas
f . Reyna del Cielo
g . Reyna de las Virgines
h . Reyna de las Flores

The procession is followed by the steady beat of rondalla, playing and singing "Dios Te Salve".
Dios te salve Maria
Llena eres de gracia
El senor es contigo
Bendita tu eres
Entre todas las mujeres
Y bendito es el fruto
De tu vientre Jesus.
Santa Maria Madre de Dios
Ruega por nosotros
Pecadores ahora
Y en la hora
De nuestra muerte amen. Jesus.

Aquí os dejo el enlace por si os quereis informar más: http://www.philippinecountry.com/philippine_festivals/santacruzan.html
Hispamnic   Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:37 pm GMT
<<The USA replaced Spain as the culture of influence. Spanish has pretty well diet out there as a result...<< Same process in Morocco. Spanish was once favorite foreign language.
Now it is being replaced by English.
Meanwhile, being the sole language understood throughout the country, French is no longer considered as a foreign language.
And Spanish has vanished from the radar screen.
K. T.   Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:23 am GMT
I talked to a Filipino recently. He was decidedly anti-Spanish. He liked French and Japanese. He gave his reason for not liking it, but I forgot what it was. That's just one person, though. I've heard that others think of Spanish as a prestige language.

Just like here, it appears there are many views.
Filipino   Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:28 am GMT
Es verdad que el español va cobrando popularidad en este país. Mucha gente lo entiende y puede hablarlo hasta cierta medida. Desgraciadamente, siempre habrá menos gente aprendiendo español que inglés.

It's true that Spanish is increasing in popularity in this country. Many people understand it and can speak to an extent. Unfortuantely, there will always be less people learning Spanish than English.
Hispanoparlante   Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:39 am GMT
El inglés es un lenguaje horrible. Aún cuando sé hablarlo, prefiero mucho más mi español. Al inglés le falta cadencia y pasión.
English is a horrible language, even though I know how to speak it, I prefer my Spanish language. English doesn't have candence nor passion. Sobre todo el inglés de los EEUU. Afortunadamente las nuevas generaciones lo están destruyendo ya que la única palabra que sabe decir es "like". Like whatever. Ha ha ha ha!!!
kawaii   Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:48 am GMT
Because it is in Asia.

Chinese and Japanese are more attractive for Philippines.
LA IRA   Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:50 am GMT
<<El inglés es un lenguaje horrible. Aún cuando sé hablarlo, prefiero mucho más mi español. Al inglés le falta cadencia y pasión. >>

¿Por qué no te callas? Son idiotas como tú la razón por que los gabachos son superiores a nosotros.
Guest   Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:22 am GMT
Nice try mi amigo but:

<< Countries where WAS official French and now NO: Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Mauritania. Tunisia, Algeria Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Louisiana (USA), Maurice, etc >>

French is prefered and used instead of Arabic in government commerce and education.

French is still spoken in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. It's understandable that French migh slip behind because they're in Asia unlike in the Philippines, Guam, and Maraianas which were colonized by Spain for more than 300 years but Spanish ceased not only as the official language but it disappeared and present generation Filipino of Spanish descent there speak English and Tagalog as their first language. In fact those young generation Spanish descents know Chinese than Spanish. But the most widely studied foreign language in the Philipines are French, Japanese, Italian, and German. You can ask the foreign language schools there. Same case in Marianas and Guam. In these 3 countries the people have Spanish surnames and yet they speak no Spanish? That's too bad.

French has an official status in Louisiana and the number of its speakers ias risisng again thanks tothe immersion program of CODOFIL unlike New Mexico where the hispanics there speak English at home and has no official status.

French is much much more widely spoken than English in Mauritius. Yes eveb Indians and Chinese prefer to use it than English and there's a trend that it will become the first language of all Mauritians regardless of ethnic background again because of sducation. It's true that French was not an official in that country but recently it became an official language and Anglo-Saxons are quite worried that Engliash may disappear in there becasue of the official status of French.

<< Countries where French and ENGLISH are official: Rwanda, Cameroon, Canada, Seychelles, Madagascar, etc. The most powerful language always wins. So, French will disappear in these countries. >>

Hahahaha! Rwanda was ruled by pro-anglo tutsis they are forcing the ramming English in the throats of the hutus.

In Cameroon, the anglophone complains that Francophones speak no English while the Anglophones are fluent in French.

Why would French disappear in Canada when it's dominant in Quebec, Northern Ontario and Prairie Provinces, New Brunswick, and Labrador.

French is spoken sided by side with English it's understandable because it was seized by the brits from the French but again French survived there in tothink that it was colonized by the French for slightly 1 century that ended up after the Napoleonic wars unlike in the Philippines which was colonized for 300+ yeas and then the Spanish language suddenly disappeared when Americans took over warly in the 20th century. There's no excuse for that because there were modern means of communications and transportation at that time of take over.

Madagascar? I heard that the peole there are so uninterested in learning English unlike in Nigeria and Ghana where the people are so interested in learning French and it's required in secondary schools. English is declared as an official language there just to attract foreign investors from US and UK but there's no sign that it will be spoken by the people there.

<< Countries where French and ARABIC are official: Djibouti, Tchad, Comores, Niger (recognized regional language), etc. The most powerful language always wins. So, French will disappear in these countries. >>

Please abalyze why French is used in place of Arabic in Maghreb in government, commece, and education. Arabic is used only in Religion here.

English is the one that is in great jeopardy because in Kenya, Uganda, and Tanzania, Swahili is declared as an official language which poses a threat to English as much as French competes with English in Egypt.

<< Countries where French is the first language of the country: ONLY France and Monaco. >>

BOBO! It's France, Canada, Belgium, Switzerland, Mauritius, and DOM-TOM.

However, the language that is in free fall, in the larger decline is Spanish, of course because of Quechua and Aymara in Bolivia, Peru, and Ecuador; Guarani in Paraguay; Quiche in Guatemala; Lunfardo and Italian in Argentina; Portonhul in Uruguay; English and Nahauatl in Mexico; Borriqueño in Puerto Rico; English in Panama and Costa Rica; and French in Dominican Republic.

Besides Spanish will disintigrate into new languages like Afrikaans from Dutch.

Proofs:

Yo hablo Español
Jo/Zho hablo Ehpañol/Ezpañol/EshpañolEzhpañol/Eshpañol/Ethpañol.


Ufff! I see a black future for your language and it has a very big problems that are hard to fix especially that Spanish speaking nations donot have budget for the solution, mi amigo!