Why was Korean Kanji/Hanja abandoned?

MURAGAMI   Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:24 am GMT
Why did Korean abandon Hanja despite the fact that Hanja is a useful character ?

Hanja=漢字(pronunciation: 한자)


韓漢混用文:

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JIAJIA   Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:14 am GMT
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In fact, I prefer Japanese writing system, because it borrowed "Kanji" from Chinese characters, even Hiragana and Katakana were all created based on Chinese characters (cursive hand & regular script). Please review the enclosed pictures. But I don't think it's very clever for Korean to give up Chinese characters "Hanja", mainly because there're really a lot of homonymous words in Korean articles. And only Hanja can make it open-and-shut, and keep away from confusion jamming.


Hiragana:
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/4/45/450px-Hiragana_origin.svg.png

Katakana:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Katakana_origine.svg/401px-Katakana_origine.svg.png


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Guest   Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:58 am GMT
- But I don't think it's very clever for Korean to give up Chinese characters "Hanja"-

Lucky enough you aren't asked what Koreans should or shouldn't do.
Hanja are archaic in modern Korean.
Northen Chinese   Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:48 am GMT
For example, "효제충신예의염치", can you understand what it means? If you ask a Korean of younger generation what this 8 characters says, maybe many of them don't know the answer very clearly, and it's not easy to found out in general dictionaries, but if you write it as Chinese characters "孝悌忠信禮義廉恥", perhaps some educated youths could understand the meanings right away. Besides this kind of case, some homonymic words would not be distinguished very easily according to context relation, just look up in a Korean advanced dictionary and you'll find that, a great deal of Korean words are remarked with Chinese characters in the brackets, so that Korean would be able to make sense of the accurate meanings without any confusion. Of course, it's the human rights for Korean to abandon Chinese character - Hanja, but it's really a pity, and it gets more kicks than halfpence, in my humble opinion.
Guest   Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:07 pm GMT
I'm sure Chinese characters are great, but lots of languages around the world do not use them and they are not any worse off for it.
Luca   Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:12 pm GMT
Yes that's true, but I think the Koreans find reading the Hangul so easy and fast compared to giving each character a different reading like in Japanese.
Although I personally consider Chinese characters so beautiful!!!
Guest   Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:32 pm GMT
Korean hangul letters are beautiful too, pretty unique. And as a Frenchman I too find them much easier to read, although of course it's a moot point since this is not me the language is designed for.
Guest   Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:39 pm GMT
<<If you ask a Korean of younger generation what this 8 characters says, maybe many of them don't know the answer very clearly, and it's not easy to found out in general dictionaries, but if you write it as Chinese characters "孝悌忠信禮義廉恥", perhaps some educated youths could understand the meanings right away.>>

Not true. I've asked Korean friends who didn't even know of the existence of Hanja. But they are pretty dumb fucks so maybe not...
Northen Chinese   Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:53 am GMT
Not true. I've asked Korean friends who didn't even know of the existence of Hanja.


Most educated people ought to know something about Hanja, maybe not very much, but at least, they should know that, in the past, Korean wrote all the articles with onefold Hanja (or combination of Hanja+Hangul), instead of Hangul itself. You can ask an old Korean person whether I'm lying to you.
K. T.   Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:02 am GMT
The Koreans I've talked to recently (in their thirties) know about Hanja, but they tell me "young" people or "uneducated" people don't know them now.

I'm not saying Korean young people are uneducated.
Guest   Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:19 am GMT
For your information, the difference between "Chinese characters", "Japanese KANJI" and "Korean HANJA", as follows:


1,HANZI(漢字/汉字)= Chinese characters(Traditional+Simplified)

2,KANJI(漢字)= Chinese characters(Traditional)+ Japanese self-made characters(a very small quantity,based on Chinese characters)

3,HANJA(漢字)= Chinese characters(Traditional),but almost no Korean self-made characters,even if it has,there must be fewer than Japanese KANJI.



If any further questions, please let me know, thank you.
Guest   Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:31 am GMT
In every Korean language dictionary (國語辭典/국어사전), you can find out related remark of HANJA, just beside Hangul (한글). It's true!
Guest   Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:46 am GMT
-If you ask a Korean of younger generation what this 8 characters says, maybe many of them don't know the answer very clearly, and it's not easy to found out in general dictionaries, but if you write it as Chinese characters "孝悌忠信禮義廉恥", perhaps some educated youths could understand the meanings right away.-

Young Koreans are more likely to translate it to English...English knowledge is more spread than Hanja knowledge (which is limited to old grandmothers and hardcore philologists)
Guest   Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:54 am GMT
-Although a phonetic Korean alphabet, now known as hangul, had been created by a team of scholars commissioned in the 1440's by King Sejong, it did not come into widespread use until the late 19th and early 20th century. Thus, until that time it was necessary to be fluent in reading and writing hanja in order to be literate in Korean, as the vast majority of Korean literature and most other Korean documents were written in hanja. Today, hanja play a different role. Scholars who wish to study Korean history must study hanja in order to read historical documents. For the general public, learning a certain number of hanja is very helpful in understanding words that are formed with them, in much the same way that understanding Ancient Greek, Latin, and other ancient languages can give a deeper understanding of the Modern English vocabulary. Hanja are not used to write native Korean words, which are always rendered in hangul, and even words of Chinese origin — hanja-eo (한자어, 漢字語) — are written with the native hangul alphabet most of the time.-


wikipedia
Guest   Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:59 am GMT
-Opinion surveys show that the South Korean public do not consider hanja literacy essential, a situation attributed to the fact that hanja education in South Korea does not begin until the seventh year of schooling.[11] Hanja terms are also expressed through hangul, the standard script in the Korean language. Some studies suggest that hanja use appears to be in decline. In 1956, one study found mixed-script Korean text (in which Sino-Korean nouns are written using hanja, and other words using hangul) were read faster than texts written purely in hangul; however, by 1977, the situation had reversed.[12] In 1988, 80% of one sample of people without a college education "evinced no reading comprehension of any but the simplest, most common hanja" when reading mixed-script passages-