Language Dictatorship in Belgium

Visitor   Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:03 pm GMT
Hispanic communities only cause problems: Indolent Castilians, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorians, Paraguayans, and Guatemalans to the demise of Catalonians, Galicians, Basque, Quechuans, Aymarans, Guaranis, and Quiche speakers.
Toronto speaks French   Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:05 pm GMT
While Quebec is in Canada, the French language will continued to be extended in the mouths of the Anglo/Allophones.
Guest   Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:33 pm GMT
Why should English speakers in Canada learn French? It's not useful at all.
eastlander   Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:02 pm GMT
It is wishful thinking.Toronto not speaks French.Toronto speaks English,Ukrainian,German,Polish,Lithuanian etc.
Guest   Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:39 pm GMT
Toronto is a Spanish word.
Caspian   Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:44 pm GMT
Torontas nekalba Lietuviškai, Torontas kalba Angliškai ir Prancūziškai.
Daugiausiai, Prancūzų kalba yra Kvebeko kalba.
eastlander   Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:54 pm GMT
"Toronto" is a placename of Mohawk origin that means "where there are trees standing in the water".
Breiniak   Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:27 pm GMT
Well, remember Walloons that Flanders has always paid more taxes, even when it was the poorer country. You guys need us. Better not spread lies about how much your rights are "abused" for being forced to speak Dutch in Flanders.
Walloon towns with a former Flemish majority seem to have been adapted to the French language pretty well on the other hand...

Most Flemish still believe in Belgium and that's a wonder with all these francophone demagogues sitting on their lazy asses spamming disinformation to international forums.

Non-Belgians just don't understand the history of Belgium if they think we're just blind Walloon-bashers...
Breiniak   Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:34 pm GMT
Also, if it weren't for British and French intervention, we'd still be Dutch. Flanders at the least would still be. In Antwerp and Ghent most intellectuals still were supporters of Willem I. Some deeply conservative Catholic West-Flemish on the other hand were against a unified Dutch language, because they feared for Protestant influenced (which was ignorant, as Roman Catholicism actually never died in the Netherlands with their religious freedom).
Anyway, despite the fact that it would be better for our situation to have been remained Dutch, most Flemish embrace their Belgian fatherland. History has decided us to be Belgian and most people accept that.

Would be very dumb of francophones to stubbornly dream of a 'Latin' Belgium ain't it? Flemish are getting tired of this conservatism.
Breiniak   Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:48 pm GMT
Die Elsaß über alles Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:41 am GMT
<<Unlike Flanders, France doesn't prevent anyone to speak the language he wants. In those regions virtually no one wants to split from France. Parties that campaign for independance rarely get more than 1% of votes. >>

You are a liar. In France, Occidental and Corsican are considered 'dialects' of French while they're actually closer to respectively Catalonian and Italian. People would be shocked if politicians used it at their city counsel.

Closer to home, Walloon politicians were criticed for using Walloon dialect in their City Counsil. They only accept French language over there.

Only Flemish douchebag individuals would mistreat you for speaking French in Flanders, actually, and some francophones act as if this is the norm over here. Actually it's pretty much the same situation as with Flemish speaking Dutch in Wallonia to each other. Most don't mind, some frustros do.
Get out of your victim complex for goodness' sake.
Guest   Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:51 pm GMT
Sorry to delude you but that the Flemish are Belgians was not decided by them. Belgium was artificially created by the UK to stop the French expansionism. Obviously the Wallons and the Flemish would be part of different countries if other more influentian countries had not interest on the contrary.
Breiniak   Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:54 pm GMT
I know, but most common people don't seem to care about the history of Belgium and are willing to accept the lie that Belgium was for their good. As long as the majority doesn't want to split, we don't have a change to be independed or reuinited with the Dutch again.
Breiniak   Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:55 pm GMT
change = chance. This forum lacks an edit-button.

Next time I'll use a spelling checker. :p
Phaeton   Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:10 am GMT
Actually Breiniak, the rattachist movement is gaining ground. A recent poll commissioned by 'Le Soir' showed that 50% of Walloons would accept to be French again...The two communities's interests are so irreconcilable that a functioning federal government has become impossible. Face the facts: Belgium was never a nation and never will be, even Leopold I and Talleyrand recognised it ! Belgium won't last, it will split in less than a decade, and the sooner the better. If Flanders hasn't declared its independence yet, it is only because it wants to make sure that Brussels will be its capital. Wallonia will be better off without the tyranny of Flanders and when it has got rid of the despicable Saxe-Coburg-Gotha monarchy ! Within the French Republic, we won't be treated as second-class citizens. Sorry to disappoint you, but the reunification is on the way and there's no way you can stop it. Let me tell you that it is the people who decide which nation they want to be part of , and not History. If I follow your point, Ireland should be part of the UK just because History decided it? The Czechs and the Slovaks shouldn't have split for the same reason ? The URSS should be recreated ? African and Asian colonised countries shouldn't have declared their independence, only because History had decided they had to be accept the rule of European powers? Let me tell you that this History argument is completely irrelevant. Walloons are realising they'd better be part of France, in spite of the Belgicain propaganda instruments like the RTBF or Le Soir.
Milton   Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:11 am GMT
why split when you can join, in the past, 90 % of splitting included blood, land mines and victims (Yugoslavia, Cyprus just in recent years)