How do native speakers decide if it's countable or not?

a philistine   Sun May 10, 2009 11:08 am GMT
>>sheep n. , pl. sheep<<

What does this excerpt from your post tell you R.M.?
It tells me:
1. noun - singular: sheep
2. noun - plural: sheep
Damian SW15   Sun May 10, 2009 11:14 am GMT
Regarding "countable" nouns the most confusion here in the UK at least is that concerning the use of "less" or "fewer", so much so that many people tend to think that "less" will do for everything, whether it refers to a countable noun or not.

For purists it can really grate and to them it's some kind of linguistic trauma to hear someone say something like "less people went to see the show last night" but at the same time someone who says that would never say "there was fewer snow in March than there was in February".

You can often hear people in the UK broadcasting media misuse the word "less" in this way, which confirms the belief that many people don't regard it as incorrect, whereas most probably it would have been seen as wrong in the past, certainly on the BBC I would imagine.
Robin Michael   Sun May 10, 2009 11:37 am GMT
There is obviously a certain amount of confusion over 'countable and uncountable' nouns in the English speaking world.




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Robin Michael   Sun May 10, 2009 11:46 am GMT
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Travis   Sun May 10, 2009 6:57 pm GMT
Sorry, but in a lot of English dialects it is normal usage to use "less" in such a manner, and the insistence on the use of "fewer" for countable items is just pure prescriptivism and nothing else, as it does not actually reflect normal English usage.
Robin Michael   Tue May 12, 2009 4:30 am GMT
beetroot


If you have prepared beetroot, it is called 'beetroot' regardless of how many beetroots there are.

However, if you are digging up beetroots in a field, the noun 'beetroot' is countable.

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