What if Germany would win the WWII?

Nonono   Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:33 pm GMT
Germany didn't want the demise of the British Empire and of the USA, they saw them as counting among the greatest achievements of the Germanic race. Which is why they thought they were buying Anglo gratefulness when the refrained from destroying the British Army in Dunkirk.


But that's only propaganda. Do you think that if the Germans could they would not control the USA only because racially the Americans are related to them? hahaha. Even more, they would put any pretext to wipe you out, like some interbreeding with the blacks, the jews, or whatever. Germany is very tiny but it's densely populated, that's why they invaded Poland and they would invade other lands if they had the opportunity .
hijodeputa   Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:16 pm GMT
Idiots. Not even the most fanatical Nazi would be stupid enough to think Germany was powerful enough to control all that territory. They would have been aiming for an eventual peace agreement which gave them a lot of goodies.
Guest   Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:42 pm GMT
Germany was perfectly capable to destroy USA (I'm considering USA alone, not USA+GB+France+USSR+ the rest of the world)
upstater   Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:16 am GMT
<<Germany didn't want the demise of the British Empire and of the USA, they saw them as counting among the greatest achievements of the Germanic race. >>

Apparently, Hitler changed his opiion later on:

"Similarly, in his early years Hitler also greatly admired the United States of America. In Mein Kampf, he praised the United States for its anti-immigration laws. According to Hitler, America was a successful nation because it kept itself "pure" of "lesser races." However as war approached, his view of the United States became more negative and he believed that Germany would have an easy victory over the United States precisely because the United States in his later estimation had become a mongrel nation."

Since it's published on the web, it must be true. :)

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Nazi/

(Just above the images of the brick buildings on the page)

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Somewhere, decades ago, I saw a map of the US split up, supposedly into an eastern zone to be occupied by Germany, and a western zone for Japan.
Guest   Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:47 am GMT
Obviously Hitler changed his opinion about USA because USA was his military enemy, not because it changed from "pure" to "mongrel" by art of magic. German migration to USA was also limited at certain point. Only a certain number of German migrants was allowed to enter USA, so not only migration from the "lesser nations" was limited. Hitler had weird ideas about the relationship with the English as well. He envisioned an alliance between UK and Germany where both nations would share the world supremacy .Once again his opinion about the English as being another yummy aryan nation changed when he had to do the war against the UK. This way they passed to being a mongrel nation too dominated by the Jews. Eventually when Hitler commited suicide he considered Germany a lesser mongrel nation too which betrayed him and then died.
Little Tadpole   Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:04 am GMT
You guys have not though about one thing: English is about the only major European language that does not use diacritics: no umlaut, no ess-zet, no accent symbols, no ñ. If German were the most important language, how would the equivalent of ASCII/EBCDIC character mapping look like? Once you start to accept special characters, there is no end to it. And computer informatics today would look totally different. BASE64 encoding would have been impossible.

So, be grateful that English came out winner. Sometimes it makes you wonder whether it was destiny, for English to become dominant.

How often do you visit a website with non-English-letter URL?
keypunch fan   Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:24 am GMT
<<If German were the most important language, how would the equivalent of ASCII/EBCDIC character mapping look like? Once you start to accept special characters, there is no end to it. And computer informatics today would look totally different. BASE64 encoding would have been impossible.>>

Actually, English often uses one of the Latin-1 code pages (at least on UNIX-type systems), all of which have the same set of letters with accent marks and the same set of special characters. [ISO-8859-1, 8-bit code page, for example.] This one set is good enough for most western European Languages. Of course, English language keyboards lack accented characters.

I suppose those of us in the US and UK (etc.) were lucky back in the days of 6-bit BCD codes (used on the IBM 026 and 029 keypunches), where you were limited to 64 characters (no lower case letters).
idiots abound   Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:34 am GMT
Computer science seems very connected to English, because it was created by English speakers. DOH! I thought that would be obvious. It could well have been created by the Russians and then it'd all be in Cyrillic and we'd be thinking "wow, programming would have been impossible if it had been done by English speakers, because coding Latin alphabet rather than Cyrillic would be impossible"
Little Tadpole   Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:18 am GMT
idiots abound: Learn to read. DOH! "English is about the only major European language that does not use diacritics" Without this sentence, anything else does not follow. DOH!

The simplest Western European alphabet was the one that became the dominant language in the world. Get it?

Be grateful.

You surely do not want Chinese to the default language of cyber-informatics, right? Good luck with your quicksort.
German guest   Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:48 am GMT
<<The simplest Western European alphabet was the one that became the dominant language in the world. Get it?>>

Yes, but it is a very difficult language in pronuntiation. German, Spanish, French or Italian are easier than English. Even English has not the "a" sound clearly.

Another idea. If German or another language has the opportunity to be a World language twice (two World wars) and they failed, German will never be a World language.

Only 3 modern languages were the most important language from the XV century to the XXI century, at least during a century: Spanish, French and English.

There is a feeling that German and other languages, like Russian, lost their opportunity to be the most important World language during the XX century.
idiots abount   Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:21 am GMT
<<idiots abound: Learn to read. DOH! "English is about the only major European language that does not use diacritics" Without this sentence, anything else does not follow. DOH!

The simplest Western European alphabet was the one that became the dominant language in the world. Get it?

Be grateful.

You surely do not want Chinese to the default language of cyber-informatics, right? Good luck with your quicksort. >>


Diacritics don't mean shit. Why would they? And it's not a matter of what I want or not. If the Chinese had invented cyber-informatics they would have wanted it in Chinese, or at least some system of their choice, maybe a symbolic alphabet or something, because the inventor gets to decide.

And no, English did not become dominant because it doesn't have diacritics. I've never heard anything more mind-numbingly stupid in my life.

Hahaha! Spread the word. Hitler lost WWII because German has diacritics! LOL!
keypunch fan   Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:51 am GMT
<<You surely do not want Chinese to the default language of cyber-informatics, right? Good luck with your quicksort. >>

If the Chinese had been the main early developers of computing, perhaps we'd all be using MBCS codes (like Unicode), or else we'd have 16-bit bytes or characters as the basic addressible unit of memory.