Americans and a retarded Russian bimbo Marina O.

DeadAsYouCanBe   Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:22 pm GMT
A dumb Eastern European whore googles some words and makes some YouTube videos and achieves minor fame. Amazing how things work nowadays.
Alex   Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:08 pm GMT
opyt wrote:
"95% of Russians and Poles are unable to correctly use articles even after 20 years of using English."

Yeah, that's because 95% of the population are idiots! lol

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Flurkmore.ru%2F95%2525&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=
Julio Cortázar   Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:52 pm GMT
Whoever wrote that article sure is an idiot - his English is unbearable to read!
ILoveGoogle   Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:13 pm GMT
"Whoever wrote that article sure is an idiot - his English is unbearable to read!"

It's simply Google Translator's English :)
The article was in Russian originally - haven't you noticed that? :)
niggafaggit   Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:46 pm GMT
http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/marina-orlova-hot-for-words/

This post is about a curious girl from Russia named Marina Orlova who has a website called hot for words. Despite some bias comments in this blog post about her I would give Marina and her blog and Youtube channel HotforWords two thumbs up. I think she promotes languages and gets people into language learning, I like it and her for her love of languages.
Who is Marina Orlova

Marina Orlova is a Russian girl who studied languages and English in Russia. She has a master’s degree and getting her PhD in the US she is 28, born December 10th 1980.

I respect this girl’s love for languages. I particularly love her etymological interests. This is one of my passions also.

What makes her so special? Nothing. She is in my opinion a normal looking (maybe below average) Russian girl. She is not that pretty in fact. I am an American living in Eastern Europe and all the girls look like that, well most of them. And even if not, what does it matter. Every girl no matter what she looks like is beautiful and a princess. I truly believe this. The difference is with Marina Orlova is she markets herself well.

People will say are you kidding Mark? Marina is an amazingly sensual Russian girl. I say not really, she is all marketing, like most stars. However, I live in Eastern Europe.

Marina Orlova is a YouTube hit, I can not deny this. Her Youtube videos have 250 million views, and I am sure those views do not have an interest in languages.

I have some YouTube videos and none of them fly as high as hers, it is because of her looks.

She is one of the all time most popular Youtube actresses. Her focus is languages. She combines languages with looks. Hence the title of her website HotForWords. People like this combination of beauty and intelligence.

Марина Орлова has a program and makes a new video twice a week. I personally find it boring because it is too much cream not enough milk. However, in all fairness I think part of young and modern Russian culture is Russian girls like to show up and show off, however, not all of them. But Whether I am in Egypt or Greece I have observed Russian girls on the beach striking the pose like they are some super model.

My general view about Marina’s HotforWords:
Marina Orlova is too flashy for me. Too much make up and looks too artificial. I can not watch more than five minutes. Even a few minutes is painful for me to watch on my computer. I do not like girls who try to be tempting even if it is for show.
I prefer simple, humble Russian girls from the countryside, not some post Soviet Moscow girl with fake hair and maybe other parts? Therefore, for me she is annoying because she is the opposite of what I think is sensual in a women.
However, Hotforwords does spark one’s interest in the origin, and use of words. Further it is a form of art. Therefore is not all that bad and this is why I would give her and her video blog an other all positive rating.

However, this is me. You maybe different. I like humble and normal. She puts herself out there as some blonde symbol of Aphrodite. I understand it is business so I will not knock her. Further, she is not doing any hard but in fact promoting language learning.

The people have spoken and she is a hit on YouTube so I recommend you watch her videos and evaluate it for yourself. I would be curious about your feedback, so leave me a comment.

I think YouTube by the way is great entertainment but in now way a good way to learn a language, it is too showy and chaotic. Maybe if your a child its good exposure to languages but not for serious study.

I would have imaged she got a student Visa to study in the US. However, she is running a rather large profitable website so I do not how she does it. The USA is not just giving out Visas or green cards or citizenships, just because you look good.

It appears she has organized a limited partnership called HotForWords, LLC in of all places Beverly Hills, CA. Therefore I think the is more to the story than some simple Russian girl who has a passion for words. I imagine she has a sponsor. Perhaps she start by her self but at this point there are people behind the operation and it is a well thought out well planned honey pot.

I imagine she meet someone who helped her out. However, I do not have this information. Her website is filled with professional contact information. She like a teacher is very well organized.
Is Marina Orlova married?

I think no, I think she is single. If you have any further information on the subject let me know. I also at this juncture she is done with her University degree. I think she has many guys that will try to marry her, but in my opinion a girl like that will marry some dark hair business guy in a civil marriage. This is my prediction.

Russian girls do want a family and love so at some level almost anyone could win her heart, but I think she is a post communist soviet girl who does not care too much about religion and fairy-tale ideals. This is why I think it is will be some American businessman.

I do not think you will really learn much from this site. But what this site does is get you interested in languages. Languages are fun. I like Marina think etymology is an important part of language learning. She has a book out. It is filled with phrase origins and suggestive puns.

It is not a serious book, just ore for fun with a lot of pictures of herself. Can you learn anything from Hot for words? Yes I think so, but just basic random facts about the English language. It is very high schoolish. To activate your passive vocabulary you need to be more proactive than watching vocabulary and dictionary lessons from a philologist – teacher of English. Unless you want entertainment it is better to get a more serious book on English or etymology an then buy a calendar of beautiful Russian women.

Is Marina Orlova like Chess Queen Alexandra Kosteniuk? Nothing similar. Marina is a showman or should I say show girl. Alexandra is a family girl who looks pretty and has lots of humility. Alexandra is a genius. She is a world chess champion. Alexandra really believes in the game. On the other hand, Marina just has books smarts and is marketing herself as a female geek from Moscow.

HotForWords and Marina is in the USA for the weather

This may be true or may be false. In Europe we have Crimea and the Greek Islands. Marina – Hot for words is in the USA to make a name for herself or maybe at least because it is fun for her. I love living in Europe as I am an American, she likes living in the USA because she is from Russia and it is fun for her to experience something new. So this is the reason she says she stayed in the USA, but I think half the world would like to stay in the USA, I think somehow there is information she is not telling us on hot for words.

My conclusion is it is worth looking at Marina’s language blog, at least for fun.
fry   Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:18 am GMT
Never heard of her before now.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that any popularity she might have isn't related to what comes out of her mouth.
bastard   Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:17 am GMT
<<'m going to go ahead and guess that any popularity she might have isn't related to what comes out of her mouth. >>

It's related to what goes in. Or should go in.
niggafaggit   Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:42 pm GMT
http://www.hotforwords.com/2009/01/24/marina-pics-gallery-1/marina2-223/

Her fanboys must be blind saying she is pretty. She has such an ugly face that I wouldn't touch her even with 100" long stick. She looks not so repelling only if she wears pounds of make up. Her fans must be total losers and long-standing onanists with deformed sense of esthetic.

Typical quotes from her fanboys:
"You are, simply put… a cranial ROCKSTAR! Your mental swagger is as impressive as your stunning beauty… I’m sure you hear that a lot, which raises an interesting question. If one were to compliment you, what could one say about you, that has not already been said? I would venture to say you’re unique and here is why… never have I seen such beauty combined with such personality and mental prowess."

"Marina you are the most beautiful and photogenic female i have ever seen Things are tight for me now but the first chance i get i’m buying your calender putting it up where it’s the first thing i see when i get up.I’m 58 years old and am so glad i found your site informative easy on the eyes for sure and like a lot of guys wish you were in my xmass stocking some day…sorry but i call um like i see um.If your not married yet all i can say is when he comes along he will be the luckyest guy in the world beauty,brains a sense of humor..Wow"

"Loving "Hot For Words" more and more each day"

"Marina, that was a brilliantly done video. Loved every bit of it. Your hair in the intro looked glorious and I loved the pigtails. It added that extra touch to the lecture. Loved your Beavis grunt. You are too much. Ohhhh those YT comments, those were hilarious. What a great video."

NEVER HAVE THEY SEEN A REAL, BEAUTIFUL WOMAN. But how can they if they were jerking off to the porn thru all their lives?
daveyboy   Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:10 pm GMT
Niggafaggit.

You say this about her because Marina would not give You a second look..lol.
Marina   Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:18 pm GMT
Zdravstvuyte! My name Marina. I russian from origin but I live in US. I live here from 6 years so I speak very fluently english. My writted english is very well also. I philologyst. This mean i research ethymology and background of words. I graduate of two universities, english philology and russian philology and I lerned it alot. I telled you ethymology of 500 words till now on my wideos. I like sex too. See my last wideo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-u3ZN_YXs I beautyfull. Every man love me. Nice to meet you.
daveyboy   Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:11 pm GMT
Marina, Your spoken English is very good i must say, but you need alot more practise on your written English, you have quite a few mistakes.

This is how you should of wrote it.. more or less..

Zdravstvuyte! My name is Marina. I am of russian origin but I live in the US. I have lived here for 6 years so I speak very fluent english. My written english is very good also. I am a philologyst. This means i research ethymology and backgrounds of words. I graduated from two universities, english philology and russian philology and I learned a alot. I can tell you ethymology with 500 words now on my videos. I love sex too. See my latest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-u3ZN_YXs I am beautyfull. Every man loves me. Nice to meet you. .
a   Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:59 pm GMT
http://staefcraeft.blogspot.com/2009/12/hot-for-words-on-titillating.html

Hot for Words: On titillating etymologies and pop philology (with some remarks on Beowulf movies and sex thrown in for good measure)
I came across an article by Marc Bousquet, "Teaching for Lust" on Brainstorm, the blog of The Chronicle of Higher Education, discussing Marina Orlova (Марина Орлова), a self-employed philologist who produces a YouTube series "Hot for Words".

Apparently Marina started her YouTube channel back in 2007, but I'd never heard of her until this week. I haven't seen her discussed in any of the usual places (Language Log, languagehat, etc.). I'm usually on the lookout for video clips having to do with language but somehow I missed this series.

Here's the first video she posted (the more recent videos are much more polished):



And a blurb from her website:
Marina Orlova, known to millions of fans around the world as a sexy master of language, HotForWords, is a 28 year old Internet “sensation”. Hailing from Moscow, Marina has two degrees in philology which is the study of linguistics and origins of words. Back in Russia Marina taught English and World Literature to high-schoolers. She came to the United States six years ago to improve her English skills and prepare for her Ph.D., but she ended up staying in the U.S. simply because of the warmer weather. Two and a half years ago, Marina burst onto the YouTube scene. Her initial goal was to reach more people with her language knowledge...In each video she takes word requests from YouTube users and discusses their meanings and origins. Something that might, at first, seem boring, but when a buxom blonde with a Russian accent teaches you anything, it can be quite educational, thus proving, as her tag-line states, that “Intelligence is Sexy.”
Obviously part of her popularity is simply because sex(iness) sells. But is this a bad thing?

I had some concerns about whether her philology would be sound, especially as she's apparently a recurrent guest on Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor---and I don't associate Fox News with "truthiness".

The few "Hot for Words" videos I watched, however, seemed largely accurate. I mean, they weren't deep, and I'm guessing Orlova takes a lot of etymologies straight from the OED, but I didn't notice any serious misinformation. Etymologies seem to be her main trade, though she does have a video which touches on sound change, dealing with the pronunciation of kn-initial words (where knife is illustrated by a khukuri!), and a bit on neologism.

Turning back to the "Teaching for Lust" article, Bousquet's comments on Orlova are rather perplexing:
Youtube phenom “Hotforwords” raises the ante on the “teaching for love” canard. In the process, she schools us on how teaching really can realize the administration’s dream in the form of the ultimate “quality” process.
The 27-year-old Russian philologist is a former Ph.D. aspirant and high-school literature teacher with nearly 30 million views of her videos explaining various linguistic puzzles, such as — in the featured clip — how “dope” can mean both stupid and excellent.
One might ask the same about the term “quality,” which for administrators means, well, this.
Seriously, there’s no disputing her metrics. It’s teaching as “vaudeville,” as The New York Times’s Virginia Heffernan points out, but her curriculum is customer-defined and market-oriented. She is a self-funding responsibility center. She gets great student evaluations. Her teaching methods are susceptible to straightforward assessment instruments. There isn’t a “quality” complaint to make about her.
Oh yeah, and it’s totally exploitative, which makes a nice fit with all the outsourcing and permatemping.
Marina’s teaching for love (of fame) is not entirely divorced from the phenomenon that Michelle Masse analyzes as the feminization of the humanities — the reduction of whole fields of faculty work to second-class status by way of the gender economy: part of the cheapening and degradation of the work is the tacit recognition of it as women’s work, as a service, compensated by something other than wages. In connection with her forthcoming SUNY collection Ten Million Served with Katie Hogan, she observes how the call to “service” is one of the most compelling vectors of exploitation in academic life.
Masse points out that “secretary” and “nurse” used to name well-remunerated, well-respected positions for men. Kinda like “professor of language.” Now that it’s women’s work, it’s best done as a kind of lightly-paid volunteerism — for love, or, as in Marina’s, case, something closely allied to it.
Now, Masse's remarks (see link above) seem to be on target, but I'm not sure how this relates to sexed-up YouTube mini-philology, as Bousquet suggests. [Update: Orlova actually replied to Bousquet's commentary: see here.]

Orlova doesn't seem to be teaching just for "love": she's a revenue-sharing YouTube partner, she's signed an endorsement deal with "coComment", and she's published a book with HarperCollins. If she started out teaching for "love (of fame)" as Bousquet argues, I assume it was because she figured she could parlay that fame into money.

But how does this affect academics? Bousquet seems to imply that university administrations are going to outsource philology/historical linguistics to "Hot for Words". Now, admittedly university administrators often make stupid decisions, and many linguistics departments aren't refilling their historical linguistics posts---but I don't think it's because they believe they can outsource philology to Orlova.

I think, rather, such things can act to spark people's interest in a topic, and thus have a positive effect for academics: if even a small percentage of young people who watch Orlova's series become interested in etymology, some of them may decide to enrol in an historical linguistics course that they wouldn't have otherwise. Higher enrolment in historical linguistics courses = less possibility of departments deciding not to refill their historical linguistics positions.

I won't deny the vaudeville-angle of "Hot for Words", but that's why it works of course. I play YouTube clips for my students, like "A Bit of Fry and Laurie (on Language)" during my discussion of generative vs. formulaic language; and this clip from an old Fawlty Towers episode when discussing language contact. The clips don't substitute for course material, but rather supplement it by serving to maintain students' attention and get them interested in the topic we're discussing.

It seems to me that "Hot for Words" does something similar: the scantily-clad buxom blonde draws the audience in, but at least they get taught a bit of etymology. For example, in one video, Orlova answers a viewer's question about whether titillating has anything to do with tits (tits can be titillating is the logic behind the question). Now, obviously in part the viewer's question was motivated by a desire to hear a busty Russian woman talk about tits, but Orlova does answer the question, explaining that titillate derives from Latin titillāre "to tickle", and (briefly) discusses the semantic changes leading to the predominant modern sense. (Her discussion of tits was, I think, a little off, as she derived the word ultimately from Old French tete, tette, taite, but the development appears to be more complicated than that, since Old English has tit(t) and the modern form seems likely to derive from some mixture of both of the Old English and the Old French.)

A parallel that comes to mind is the effect on Anglo-Saxon studies of Beowulf movies--which have also tended to use sex to draw viewers in:
While none of the recent Beowulf-based films are particularly faithful to the original poem, they increase awareness of Beowulf and thus have the potential to raise enrolment in Old English courses.

"Hot for Words" would seem to have a similar potential effect: to arouse interest in philology, and thus perhaps get a few more bodies into historical linguistics classrooms.
Posted by be_slayed at 5:51 AM
Labels: beowulf, etymology, germanic, historical linguistics, hot for words, Marina Orlova, naughty words, old english, philology, pop academia, sound change
blanc   Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:12 pm GMT
daveyboy, I think you've gotten epically pwned. How could you so easily swallow the bait of provocation?

What can I add?

'Beautyfull' is spelled 'beautiful'.
'Philologyst' is spelled 'philologist'.
'Ethymology' is spelled 'etymology'.
'Alot' is spelled 'a lot'.
daveyboy   Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:35 am GMT
lol.. blanc.. if you read my post again it says "more or less". I just helped with the contruction of the grammer. i will leave the spelling to you eh..?. lol.