Poetry

Robin Michael   Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:10 pm GMT
Stephen Fry & Hugh Laurie - 'The Headmaster and the Pupil"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X3BJIAgkM8
Uriel   Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:19 am GMT
Well, some observations:

The British pronounce "metaphor" funny: "metafer", with a schwa at the end. Americans say "medafor", with a definite OR and a secondary stress on the final syllable.

Ditto for "about": It was almost "abite". Actually, that second vowel is a noise I can't even make.

It was a tossup for me to decide if Laurie's character was named "Teddy" or "Terry" until Fry finally said "Terrence". I'm used to a flapped R in Spanish, but not in English!

David Bowie -- I say the first syllable as in "bow and arrow", Fry said it as in "bow down". Now supposedly D.B. himself took the stage name from the Bowie knife, which in turn came from the famous American knifefighter and nonsurvivor of the Alamo, Jim Bowie, whose name I have always heard pronounced a third way, Boo-ey. So I guess you get to take your pick.
Robin Michael   Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:48 pm GMT
How annoying!

any comments on the content.

Did you find it amusing?

Are all men who study English, homosexual?

(The 'in-joke' is that Steven Fry is a well known homosexual.)



I was very receptive to this YouTube clip when it was shown in the poetry class, because earlier I had watched an episode of Jeeves and Wooster.


Jeeves And Wooster (Summary)
Bertie Wooster (Hugh Laurie) is a 'young gentleman' of limited intellect who has a tendency to get into 'scrapes'. His manservant, Jeeves (Stephen Fry), ...
www.phill.co.uk/comedy/jeeves/ - Cached - Similar


What did you think about the joke about the GSCE syllabus being like heroin (junk)?

Also, the very patronising attitude of the Headmaster and his confusion over Derek Bowie.


Stephen Fry & Hugh Laurie - 'The Headmaster and the Pupil"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X3BJIAgkM8
Uriel   Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:50 pm GMT
<<How annoying!>>

Yes, you are.


<<any comments on the content.>>

No.

<<Did you find it amusing?>>

No.

<<Are all men who study English, homosexual?>>


No. (PS: learn some punctuation)


<<(The 'in-joke' is that Steven Fry is a well known homosexual.) >>


No one cares.
Robin Michael   Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:04 pm GMT
"No one cares."


This sounds like 'Guest'.
Caspian   Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:48 pm GMT
Robin, don't you find this amusing?!
Guest   Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:51 pm GMT
Wasn't me.
Guest 2 RM   Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:26 pm GMT
It's like a skit in a school review. The ending is quite weak.

<The 'in-joke' is that Steven Fry is a well known homosexual >

I don't think you can have an "in" joke that someone is "a well known homosexual". If it's well known, it's not an "in" joke any more.

<What did you think about the joke about the GSCE syllabus being like heroin (junk)? >

It is an effective pastiche of the kind of analogy a schoolboy would draw.
Robin Michael   Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:21 am GMT
starts with joke about immaturity.

"I am not much judge of literature, I am an English teacher not a homosexual."

"are you sickening for something" very patronising

"Is it a girl, is that the problem"

"Now Terry, who has been giving you heroiin?"



So, this is a sketch parodying a very thick English teacher.



"This is a police matter, Terry, you must tell me!"

"So this poem is just a fiction, a fantasy, a lie"



How thick can an English teacher be?





The pupil tells the teacher that the poem is a metaphor. Reversal of roles. Honestly, I think that I am having to explain this to some pretty thick people.




"Junk! the GCSE syllabus is meticulously adhered to"

"What does it mean?"



The English teacher is expected to have a high level of comprehension.






"quotation, quotation, who from?" Once again, the English teacher reveals his complete ignorance. (Does this remind you of anyone who contributes to Antimoon?)



"Do you wash?" The English teacher at a public school is more concerned with basic hygene than English. Very funny!



"Why can't you write about meadows or something?" Traditional territory for poems, revealing how out of touch the English teacher is.


"Your fifteen years old Terry, what is going on" It is painful to have to explain this humour, but obviously Terry is not fifteen years old, it is Hugh Laurie a famous comedian.


Watch the teacher's hands, when he says, "I don't understand".



"I might have been unhappy if I broke my penknife" - the full extent of the teacher's imagination and empathy.


"I suppose I am on of the unhappy bubbles of anal wind, popping"

Is the English teacher an 'old fart'? Yes!


naughty schoolboy


"Is that clever?"

"another quotation from Derek Bowie" - once again, the English Teacher gets it hopelessly wrong.


The pupil ends by teaching the teacher.






These are both very clever comedians.
Robin Michael   Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:24 am GMT
Pearls before swine.


Have a look at it again, and enjoy!






Stephen Fry & Hugh Laurie - 'The Headmaster and the Pupil"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X3BJIAgkM8
Visual poetry for RM   Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:03 am GMT
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Guest 2 RM   Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:16 pm GMT
<Pearls before swine.>
<Honestly, I think that I am having to explain this to some pretty thick people.>

Remember another aspect of the sketch, Robin Michael: the 15 year old boy thinks himself very clever indeed, as he "teaches" the headmaster.
Lol   Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:20 pm GMT
I think this sketch is a parody of Robin Michael. Robin Michael, of course, is the thick teacher.
Robin Michael   Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:04 pm GMT
Pearls before swine - Look it up!
Guest 2 RM   Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:35 am GMT
"Teaching your grandmother to suck eggs" - look It Up!