My experiences with language learning

tesla   Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:43 pm GMT
rning a foreign language is possible for most people. All it takes is willingness, work and method. If you do it the right way, you can learn a language fluently in less than a year, studying on your own. You will hear that "some people are gifted for languages", as if they had tongues of fire all over them. That's not true. Some people may have had the luck of speaking 2 or more languages at home and thus learning them without realizing it, but I know that any reasonably intelligent man can learn a foreign language if he works a little and do it the right way.

Studying the right way is the main problem, because in schools they usually do it the wrong way : packing people in big groups, and then force feeding them with grammar rules and making them learn by heart vocabulary lists the same way you'd learn the phonebook. So first they loose time because nobody learns to speak that way, and second they disgust people for their whole life.

My experience with language learning

I already thought that when I was 17, but you see, when you are 17 people smile and go back learning their phonebook-vocabulary list. So I had to prove that I was right, right ? That's what I did. Well, sort of. I began to leave school and work on languages (english and german) my way. English did not require anything because I already learned it while reading, but my accent still hurt people's ears. But for german I just left for one month in Germany, reading and looking for every word I did not know. When I came back for the examination (they were done in Universities, independently from schools), the expert, who happened to be the author of the phonebook vocabulary list, the Vocabulaire de base allemand, asked me if I was german. He really seemed to mean it, although he might have though differently had he known my marks in vocabulary tests taken from his book. (This story is true, as is all the text).

When I meet people to which I had said what I thought of the phonebook approach to vocabulary learning, and the conversation turns around languages, they look down. Of course, they are neither able to read a german newspaper nor to phone someone in Frankfurt, after more than 8 years of school german. Sad story but that's the way it is.

I have always been interested in speaking many languages but when I reached 23 years, I only knew two. That is, english, german, and of course my mother tongue french, but this one I got for free. So I pondered this and said <<FX, you're dumb. You know how to learn languages efficiently, you'd like to do it, you have the time to do it. Do you want to wait until it's too late ?>> Definitely not, so I looked for a spanish method and found the excellent FSI spanish. I had never experimented with tapes before (this one has many) but was opened to it. Neither had I ever followed a "method", that is a book and tapes set which begins at lesson one and ends who knows where. The thing worked, and after six months of self study, I definitely spoke fluent spanish. (learn more about this here).

<<FX, wouldn't it be nice to speak another language ? Well, yes, of course. I chose italian, the most natural choice for me and probably the easiest as well>>. It took me about 3 month to master extended conversation (2 weeks in Rome helped a lot), though I still make some mistakes while speaking. Never mind, the Italians are forgiving.

Now I'm going after russian, quite another story, but I think I can get it.




OK it is a quote. I quoted it from another language learning website ( which I find very useful). But I thought it a very good inspiration for learners.What'd you say
Yuri   Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:02 am GMT
Thank you! It's very helpful to me
daveyboy   Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:20 pm GMT
tesla, The site you quoted from sounds interestring, what is the site please..?
Thanks
Guest8   Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:08 am GMT
Did you learned these languages as part of your degree, or did you study something else at the uni?
tesla   Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:08 pm GMT
Daveyboy   Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:59 am GMT
Thanks Tesla..
H   Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:35 pm GMT
Speaking two foreign languages fluently at the age of 23 is more than enough unless you need it for your job or you are fascinated by linguistics.
There are many other things to spend your time on.
K.   Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:46 pm GMT
I don't agree with H. Languages are a good and practical hobby/interest.
I suppose if you spend your time in prayer for the world, that could be a good use of time (if you are inclined to think that way), but most people watch TV, surf the internet, play video games, drink excessively, eat excessively, or do drugs.

I would only suggest that you learn languages that you might actually use.
H   Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:06 am GMT
<you learn languages that you might actually use. >
That's it.
<most people watch TV, surf the internet, play video games, drink excessively, eat excessively, or do drugs.>
And you won't be able to interest them in learning languages - it's labour.