Pronunciation of the word try

Lechato   Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:46 am GMT
I saw someone on american tv saying the word "try" as something like "troy". I was wondering where people speak like that. Can anyone here help me identifiyng this accent?
Thank you.
Leone   Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:12 pm GMT
Troy is Cockney, and it can be heard in Australia too.
Steak 'n' Chips   Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:47 pm GMT
If it were a British person, I'd say West Country. My 5-year old pronounces "pie" as "poi" due to local accent influence at nursery and school. That's OK, he just sounds like a little pirate.

I guess we'll have to wait for an American to answer.
Uriel   Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:24 pm GMT
Why's that? I'm with you guys. It's a British, Irish, and Aussie thing. We don't say "troy" here that I know of, probably because our AI diphthong is shifted a little more toward the AH side of things.
Carpenter Fred   Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:44 pm GMT
Some people in England also start /aI/ vowel in the same place (onset) as in General American ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNyS1zOLLEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T62oxc15mo

It is also used in Ireland:

http://web.ku.edu/~idea/europe/ireland/ireland11.mp3

According to Wikipedia, and some books about Estuary English, in Southern England (except London) /oI/ in 'night' shifts to /ɑɪ/....
Wintereis   Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:33 pm GMT
Indeed, I've never heard troy for from an American's lips. Lechato, you saw this on American television, are you sure that the person saying it was, indeed, American? Or could they have been trying to duplicate the troy sound of some British and Australian accents? Another possible alternative is that the accent is one of the New York accents, and you are not translating the sound quite accurately. Honestly, It would take someone far more skilled than I to translate the Drescherian try into a regular phonetic model.
AJC   Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:47 pm GMT
What about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfoRCP4UUhY

It's the one in the white coat
Wintereis   Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:28 am GMT
his use of the word trying was trypical not troying. His pronunciation of guy, "goy" was odd, but this is affected.
Another Guest   Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:38 pm GMT
I would say that "troy" is the stereotypical Brooklyn accent type pronunciation. Not that people from Brooklyn necessarily pronounce it that way, but that's the stereotype.