olympic team name: Great Britain?

wondering   Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:32 am GMT
Why is their Winter Olympics team called Great Britain rather than UK??? Doesn't Great Britain just refer to the island? Or did Northern Ireland not send any athletes? Still, isn't that a bit mean to exclude them on that basis? Something like calling the US team "USA minus Hawaii and New Mexico", or "France minus Corsica"...
Damian in Edinburgh   Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:02 pm GMT
Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom but not part of Great Britain, as the latter technically refers to the largest single unit of these British Isles....Northern Ireland is, of course, part of the island of Ireland, the major part of which is not part of either the UK or GB as it is actually a distinctly foreign country, not even embraced by the British Commonwealth of Nations.

The main component part of the British Isles...by far the largest island in the group by a huge margin...includes all the remaining countries of the UK - Scotland and Wales........oh!.... I nearly forgot.....England as well.

Team GB referred to the British Olympic team at Beijing in 2008, and confusingly it included athletes and competitors from Northern Ireland (as in the Vancouver Winter Olympis) in which case Team UK would seem to be the most appropriate title, but there you go.....this is the UK after all and very little is straightforwardly plain and simple here.....we do have a passion for complexity in so many ways.

The official title of the United Kingdom is this:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland....it has to be so because that is what it says on the front cover of all British passports....under the heading "European Union", of course. Beneath all of that is the Royal crest which includes the words "Honi Soit Qui Mal y Pense" and "Dieu et Mon Droit" written in gold on a Royal purple background.

This may be of interest with regard to your query:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/2008/08/team_gb_or_team_uk.shtml
GuestUser   Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:32 pm GMT
Get over it you PC lefty.
BNP   Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:18 pm GMT
Should North Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England have their own Olympic teams?.
fricken 'ell   Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:46 pm GMT
<<,Should North Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England have their own Olympic teams?.>>

They're a bunch of hypocrites. They love having their own football/cricket/rugby teams, but when it comes to the Olympics they have one team. Obviously they want the medals to be counted in one place...
guessed   Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:06 am GMT
<<Obviously they want the medals to be counted in one place... >>

Just imagine if the whole EU had just one team, they might take home the lion's share of medals (but fewer than the sum of all the member countries, I suppose)
Vinlander   Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:24 am GMT
Shut up liberals for fawks sake. If the counted Scotland and Ireland/ what about wallons and flander/ Quebec?, Siberia?, Thats all crazy talk, I think we should just listed everyone state,provinces, region, territory of every country. And the winner for gold is team (The dominion of Newfoundland&Labrador, Nova scotia, saskatoba, esikmo ville, frenchies, liberals Yuppie, and United alberta)
@wondering   Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:30 am GMT
This probably relates to the ISO country codes, where GB can be used for the UK.
Damian in Edinburgh   Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:43 am GMT
Yes indeed, the ISO coding system does recognise GB and not UK in relation to this country.....as D is for Germany and CH for Switzerland and SF for Finland, and so on and so on. The letters UK are never used in this context, which is why we never see it on all those registration number plates on motor vehicles with the blue circle and the ring of yellow stars.

I reckon this explains the Team GB title for the British Olympic team which does indeed embrace any competitors who come from Northern Ireland, even though they do not actually come from GB...the UK yes, but not GB as I've previously explained.

Internal competitions between teams from all four of the UK constituent countries or international events in which those UK consitituent countries compete in their own right is a separate issue altogether, and so may it always be. Scots reserve the right to cheer on and support the French team whenver it plays against England! ;-)
Dougie   Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:35 pm GMT
Irish people can't ski. So for the Winter Olympics they don't bother entering as members of "Team United Kingdom and Northern Ireland plus East Anglia".