Why is Dutch so close to English?

opinion   Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:11 pm GMT
Frisian is more close to English :
F. E. D.:
boai-boy-knaap
,dogge-dog-hond,
wei-way-weg,
dei-day-dag,
beam -tree (beam)-boom,
left-lofts-links,
little-lyts-klein.
Dutch is more close to German (sterven-sterben).
henk   Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:04 pm GMT
Dutch has the same basis as English and German. English has arisen from the Swedish and Frieze. The passage between German and Dutch was in former days gradual. Dutch has a lot of dialects. Just like English Dutch has taken over many words from other languages (French, latin). Dutch is a very flexible language with an ample word treasure, this in accordance with English. Other languages as Danish, German have by the inferior a prerecording of words a more limited word treasure.

You only speeks dutch with people who speeks this very well. In contradiction with English you can not speak dutch with 1000 words only.
Leasnam   Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:12 pm GMT
Frisian is close to English, but so is Dutch.

English, Dutch and Frisian have always had contact with one another throughout their recorded history, so they share parallel developments in addition to inherited features (e.g. the development of similar words for 'not' and 'alone' [Frisian net, allinne; Dutch niet, alleen; which did not exist in the Ur-Sprachen but which developed later in each language. German shares these developments as well [nicht, allein].

Dutch teeters on Frisian/English one the one hand, and German on the other.
minstrel   Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:51 pm GMT
> dude seriously what's up with all that hokkienese crap you keep spouting about? be proud of being asian, don't try to heighten your connection with white people by using crazy theories like this. come on man, that's just embarrassing. <

I'm just chat about the etymology, and the connections may be cracy in some person's view. Some modern white peoples (e.g. Germanic tribes) probably had asian ancestors in ancient times.
rep   Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:35 am GMT
There are some placenames in England that look similar to Dutch Netherlands,Zeeland:
Burgh'
Burgh Haamstede,
Burghsluis
England,Suffolk:
Babergh ,
Blythburgh ,
Aldeburgh ,
Burgh ,Chedburgh ,
East Bergholt ,
Grundisburgh
Norfolk: Bergh Apton,
Burgh Castle,
Burgh St Peter,
Burgh and Tuttington,
Colby,
Colkirk,
Dickleburgh ,
Fleggburgh,
Great Ryburgh ,
Happisburgh,
Ickburgh,
Smallburgh ,
Tasburgh,
Whinburgh
Kent:Dunkirk
Lincolnshire:Algarkirk
Lancashire:Newburgh
"Burgh" did not evolved to "borough","brough" or "bury", "bergh"-to barrow,"bargh" or "barff".
Some placenames look similar to German:
Suffolk:Debach
Cumbria:Hoff
rep   Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:44 am GMT
<Some modern white peoples (e.g. Germanic tribes) probably had asian ancestors in ancient times. >>
probaly it's true:
"In Central, Western Asia (Middle East) and South Asia, there is also a low frequency of natural blonds found among some ethnic populations. In Afghanistan, blonds are particularly found among the Pashtun and Nuristani people who have a blond hair frequency of one in three.[23] In Pakistan the Kalash tribe sometimes have blond hair. Blonde hair colour can naturally occur even among people from Northern part of Pakistan and India which includes Kashmiris, Kalash, Pashtuns, and descendants of European colonists found in Goa, Pondicherry, and North India.

Blonds are also found in Turkey (especially in northern (Caucasus) and western (European) parts of the country), and northern and western parts of Iran. The Levant Israel (especially among the Ashkenazi, who have some European admixture), western Syria, the Palestinian territories, Jordan and Lebanon have a frequency of blonds as well. In Iran, a number of natural blonds are found in some ethnic groups, especially Persians and Pashtuns. Blond hair is also common among some Berbers of North Africa, especially in the Rif.[24] Emigration and invasion from North Africa to Southern Europe (especially Iberian Peninsula) added the number of natural blonds in that region. Emigration from Middle East, Central and South Asia, and North Africa added the population of blonds in Americas, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and other parts of Africa and Europe.

Aboriginal Australians, especially in the west-central parts of the continent, have a high frequency of natural blond-to-brown hair,[25][26] with as many as 90-100% of children having blond hair in some areas.[27] The trait among Indigenous Australians is primarily associated with children and women and the hair turns more often to a darker brown color, rather than black, as they age.[27] Blondness is also found in some other parts of the South Pacific such as the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, and Fiji. Again there are higher incidences in children but here many adults too carry this indigenous blond mutation.

Some Berber Guanches populations, particularly the now extinct aboriginal population of Tenerife, one of the Canary Islands, were said by 14th century Spanish explorers to exhibit blond hair and blue eyes.[28][29] Blondness was also reported among Indigenous peoples in South America known as Cloud People.[30][31] There can be blond hair among Peruvian mestizos of mixed Cloud People and Spanish and/or other European descent. The most eastern distribution may have been the now extinct Tocharians in western China."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Persian-Iranian_girl_with_green_eyes,_rural_Iran,_09-07-2007.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Girl_in_a_Kabul_orphanage,_01-07-2002.jpg
rep   Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:33 pm GMT
<< English has arisen from the Swedish and Frieze.>>
Strange hypothesis.
Highopenground   Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:05 pm GMT
<There are some placenames in England that look similar to Dutch Netherlands,Zeeland:
Burgh'
Burgh Haamstede,
Burghsluis
England,Suffolk:
Babergh ,
Blythburgh ,
Aldeburgh ,
Burgh ,Chedburgh ,
East Bergholt ,
Grundisburgh
Norfolk: Bergh Apton,
Burgh Castle,
Burgh St Peter,
Burgh and Tuttington,
Colby,
Colkirk,
Dickleburgh ,
Fleggburgh,
Great Ryburgh ,
Happisburgh,
Ickburgh,
Smallburgh ,
Tasburgh,
Whinburgh
Kent:Dunkirk
Lincolnshire:Algarkirk
Lancashire:Newburgh
"Burgh" did not evolved to "borough","brough" or "bury", "bergh"-to barrow,"bargh" or "barff".
Some placenames look similar to German:
Suffolk:Debach
Cumbria:Hoff >

What Dutch towns have spellings like Colby? I can only think of Amby which is a neighbourhood of Maastricht and very rare indeed. Even for foreigners, Amby seems weird for a Dutch placename and stands out. English, Danish and Sleswick yes though most likely spelt Hamby, Netherlands neigh. There is a Hières-sur-Amby near Lyon France but it is nothing but one of those French names that's been misleading made to look Germanic.
rep   Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:35 pm GMT
Sorry, placename Colby look more similar to Scandinavian than to Dutch.
rep   Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:16 pm GMT
similar to Dutch:
Harden ,
Caldbergh ,
Newmillerdam (Yorkshire)
Lightwater (Surrey)
Tangmere
Woollensbrook (Hertfordshire)
Wyck (Hampshire)
similar to German:
Cotesbach (Leicestershire)
Baumber (Lincolnshire)
Burleydam   Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:33 pm GMT
Other English towns that have a Dutchiness about them. All in Cheshire:

Sandbach
Audlem
Burslem
Leek
Alsager
Odd Rode
Biddulph
Moss
Bache
Mow Cop
Hoole
Lymm
Comberbach
Styal
Dunkirk
Ellesmere
Hoylake
.   Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:46 pm GMT
Why are we continuing this show of how England is Germanic??? As if we needed to qualify that? England and English = 110% Almain.

ENGLAND ist der URHEIMAT aller germanischen leoden. Warum müssen wir immer fortsetzen, diese offensichtliche Wahrheit zu bearbeiten?
ShowingDutchIsGermanic   Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:53 pm GMT
Ingst in Gloucestershire sounds gross% German
rep   Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:38 pm GMT
"Bergh" doesn't exist in English vocabulary along while ago,it evolved to "barrow" and means "hill" but not "mount"."Burgh" is treated as Scottish word (English form is "borough"). Kirk is treated as Scottish word too (English form is "church")."Bach" in written form looks like German word. English form is "beck".
minstrel   Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:26 pm GMT
> Frisian is more close to English :
F. E. D.:
boai-boy-knaap <

English / Hokkienese
boy / pou-inn (pronounce as bor i + "nn = nasalization"), means: little boy.
Dutch / Hokkienese
knaap / kann (nn = nasalization), means: son.

The English "boy" may be lost nasalization, and the spelling of Dutch "knaap" keep the nasalization.