Collectivist insect colonies don't mind massacring other ones. I bet Confucianism-inspired Marxists neither would.
The difficulty of Chinese
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<<There's a demand of new words for new products, concepts or ideas etc. This can't be met by a fixed small set of syllables>>
http://www.amazon.com/China-Empire-Symbols-Cecilia-Lindqvist/dp/0306816091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269940411&sr=8-1
I recommend you to read this book.
It is about the creation of Chinese characters.
If you wonder how Chinese overcomed the challenge of making more character, the combination of radical-phonetic is your answer.
http://www.amazon.com/China-Empire-Symbols-Cecilia-Lindqvist/dp/0306816091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269940411&sr=8-1
I recommend you to read this book.
It is about the creation of Chinese characters.
If you wonder how Chinese overcomed the challenge of making more character, the combination of radical-phonetic is your answer.
"One possibility is that they eliminate all non-Chinese from the earth, and expand into the cleared-out areas. In that scenario, why learn Chinese, since our role is simply to be killed off?"
You totally don't understand China.
Beijing love killing its own people before killing you...
You totally don't understand China.
Beijing love killing its own people before killing you...
It would be a better idea to learn Uighur, Tibetan and Cantonese. When China is subjugated under the Western yoke those languages will be the languages of new States. Mandarin will be the language of Vietnam-2.
The West is not dead yet. It's just temporarily indisposed.
The West is not dead yet. It's just temporarily indisposed.
In a view of a Chinese person,
I think English won't be replaced by Mandarin because schools in China teach English side by side with Mandarin. Even a Chinese person needs to know latin alphabet in order to learn Mandarin pinyin or use Hanyu pinyin to input Chinese characters. One funny thing is that Chinese grammar becomes more and more like English grammar.
Chinese and China nowadays are just blatantly westernized. (except political system) Everything western is better than their own, although they always deny they have such a thinking. But you can it yourself, they love following Americans. For instance, local Chinese government love building 中央商務區 and they even use C(entral) B(usiness) D(istrict) directly.
(Chinese =/= Mandarin. There are other sinitic languages. )
I think English won't be replaced by Mandarin because schools in China teach English side by side with Mandarin. Even a Chinese person needs to know latin alphabet in order to learn Mandarin pinyin or use Hanyu pinyin to input Chinese characters. One funny thing is that Chinese grammar becomes more and more like English grammar.
Chinese and China nowadays are just blatantly westernized. (except political system) Everything western is better than their own, although they always deny they have such a thinking. But you can it yourself, they love following Americans. For instance, local Chinese government love building 中央商務區 and they even use C(entral) B(usiness) D(istrict) directly.
(Chinese =/= Mandarin. There are other sinitic languages. )
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<<There's a demand of new words for new products, concepts or ideas etc. This can't be met by a fixed small set of syllables>>
http://www.amazon.com/China-Empire-Symbols-Cecilia-Lindqvist/dp/0306816091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269940411&sr=8-1
I recommend you to read this book.
It is about the creation of Chinese characters.
If you wonder how Chinese overcomed the challenge of making more character, the combination of radical-phonetic is your answer. >>
Yuwan, you got me wrong. My criticism was not about the symbols, which I find quite interesting although difficult to learn and quite impractical, at least concernig computers, but the very limited way you can form syllables in chinese. As far as I have read, you just have about 400 syllables (I don't know if the tones are already included in that figure) and every complex word is build of some of them. You also have that one syllable = one word but a variety of meanings. You almost don't have derivational morphology. The lack of derivational morphology is a massive drawback if it comes to coining new terms in every field of life. Chinese decided the path to go tonal and isolating, and that's the wrong way.
<<There's a demand of new words for new products, concepts or ideas etc. This can't be met by a fixed small set of syllables>>
http://www.amazon.com/China-Empire-Symbols-Cecilia-Lindqvist/dp/0306816091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269940411&sr=8-1
I recommend you to read this book.
It is about the creation of Chinese characters.
If you wonder how Chinese overcomed the challenge of making more character, the combination of radical-phonetic is your answer. >>
Yuwan, you got me wrong. My criticism was not about the symbols, which I find quite interesting although difficult to learn and quite impractical, at least concernig computers, but the very limited way you can form syllables in chinese. As far as I have read, you just have about 400 syllables (I don't know if the tones are already included in that figure) and every complex word is build of some of them. You also have that one syllable = one word but a variety of meanings. You almost don't have derivational morphology. The lack of derivational morphology is a massive drawback if it comes to coining new terms in every field of life. Chinese decided the path to go tonal and isolating, and that's the wrong way.
-- Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:40 pm GMT
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<<There's a demand of new words for new products, concepts or ideas etc. This can't be met by a fixed small set of syllables>>
http://www.amazon.com/China-Empire-Symbols-Cecilia-Lindqvist/dp/0306816091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269940411&sr=8-1
I recommend you to read this book.
It is about the creation of Chinese characters.
If you wonder how Chinese overcomed the challenge of making more character, the combination of radical-phonetic is your answer. >>
Yuwan, you got me wrong. My criticism was not about the symbols, which I find quite interesting although difficult to learn and quite impractical, at least concernig computers, but the very limited way you can form syllables in chinese. As far as I have read, you just have about 400 syllables (I don't know if the tones are already included in that figure) and every complex word is build of some of them. You also have that one syllable = one word but a variety of meanings. You almost don't have derivational morphology. The lack of derivational morphology is a massive drawback if it comes to coining new terms in every field of life. Chinese decided the path to go tonal and isolating, and that's the wrong way.
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What an idiot you are in Chinese!
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<<There's a demand of new words for new products, concepts or ideas etc. This can't be met by a fixed small set of syllables>>
http://www.amazon.com/China-Empire-Symbols-Cecilia-Lindqvist/dp/0306816091/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269940411&sr=8-1
I recommend you to read this book.
It is about the creation of Chinese characters.
If you wonder how Chinese overcomed the challenge of making more character, the combination of radical-phonetic is your answer. >>
Yuwan, you got me wrong. My criticism was not about the symbols, which I find quite interesting although difficult to learn and quite impractical, at least concernig computers, but the very limited way you can form syllables in chinese. As far as I have read, you just have about 400 syllables (I don't know if the tones are already included in that figure) and every complex word is build of some of them. You also have that one syllable = one word but a variety of meanings. You almost don't have derivational morphology. The lack of derivational morphology is a massive drawback if it comes to coining new terms in every field of life. Chinese decided the path to go tonal and isolating, and that's the wrong way.
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What an idiot you are in Chinese!
<You also have that one syllable = one word but a variety of meanings.>
Bullshit. What do you mean by 'word'? Syllables and words are completely different things. I just checked in a dictionary and there are indeed about 415 SYLLABLES, tones non included. But you have rougly 5,000 common CHARACTERS, and then, with these characters, usually 1 to 4, you can form WORDS. Now you can do the maths to know how many WORDS there are.
Bullshit. What do you mean by 'word'? Syllables and words are completely different things. I just checked in a dictionary and there are indeed about 415 SYLLABLES, tones non included. But you have rougly 5,000 common CHARACTERS, and then, with these characters, usually 1 to 4, you can form WORDS. Now you can do the maths to know how many WORDS there are.
<but the very limited way you can form syllables in chinese>
'Form syllables'. You mean words? If you do mean 'syllables', you don't form them, there is a 'fixed set of syllables', as you said, but that's just the way characters are pronounced, just as you have different words pronounced in the same way in other languages, except that Mandarin Chinese has much more homophones, you can have a dozen characters pronounced the exact same way (with the same tone!).
<you just have about 400 syllables and every complex word is build of some of them>
Complex words are built from characters, not from syllables...
Shang = a syllable;
商,上,尚,伤... = characters corresponding to the syllable 'shang';
商店,商业,上面,马上,受伤...= words.
'Form syllables'. You mean words? If you do mean 'syllables', you don't form them, there is a 'fixed set of syllables', as you said, but that's just the way characters are pronounced, just as you have different words pronounced in the same way in other languages, except that Mandarin Chinese has much more homophones, you can have a dozen characters pronounced the exact same way (with the same tone!).
<you just have about 400 syllables and every complex word is build of some of them>
Complex words are built from characters, not from syllables...
Shang = a syllable;
商,上,尚,伤... = characters corresponding to the syllable 'shang';
商店,商业,上面,马上,受伤...= words.
Syllable in English
society = 4 syllables = 1 word
Syllable in Chinese languages
For example, in Cantonese, the same apply to other Chinese languages
Initial+Final+Tone = dihn 電 (electricity) =1 syllable = 1 character
Words made from dihn (electricity)
dihn 電 electricity = 1 word
dihn wah 電話 (electric saying, literally) telephone = 1 word
dihn chih 電池 (electricity pool) battery = 1 word
dihn nouh 電腦 (electric brain) computer = 1 word
dihn hei 電器 (electric instrument) electronics = 1 word
Word combination works for the Chinese languages.
But I see what you mean. Maybe it is less convenient than Europeans languages.
I just have to learn "inter- ", than I will understand or can create a new words.
inter-net 互聯網
inter-national 國際
inter-fere 阻礙
inter-act 互動
It is worse than living in hell if you study science with Chinese language.
And it is true that Chinese seldom create new characters nowadays. New words are always relay on combination of multiple characters. Maybe that's more complicated.
society = 4 syllables = 1 word
Syllable in Chinese languages
For example, in Cantonese, the same apply to other Chinese languages
Initial+Final+Tone = dihn 電 (electricity) =1 syllable = 1 character
Words made from dihn (electricity)
dihn 電 electricity = 1 word
dihn wah 電話 (electric saying, literally) telephone = 1 word
dihn chih 電池 (electricity pool) battery = 1 word
dihn nouh 電腦 (electric brain) computer = 1 word
dihn hei 電器 (electric instrument) electronics = 1 word
Word combination works for the Chinese languages.
But I see what you mean. Maybe it is less convenient than Europeans languages.
I just have to learn "inter- ", than I will understand or can create a new words.
inter-net 互聯網
inter-national 國際
inter-fere 阻礙
inter-act 互動
It is worse than living in hell if you study science with Chinese language.
And it is true that Chinese seldom create new characters nowadays. New words are always relay on combination of multiple characters. Maybe that's more complicated.
On youtube I saw this animation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjlvS5wqNjA&feature=player_embedded
You see a short video about china who tries to take over the world!
You see a short video about china who tries to take over the world!
>> doomsayer Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:52 pm GMT
Maybe yes, maybe no -- it depends on what China intends to do with us once it achieves complete world domination (assuming it does).
One possibility is that they eliminate all non-Chinese from the earth, and expand into the cleared-out areas. In that scenario, why learn Chinese, since our role is simply to be killed off?
The word China (placename) may be mean Qin empire (state name), Han empire, Tang empire, Ming empire or Qing empire.
The other Sinitic (Chinese) languages; Wu, Cantonese, Min, Hakka, Gan, Xiang, Huizhou and Jin are existing in the eliminated situation in PRC.
So it's need to correct your words;
1. China, 2. non-Chinese, 3. Chinese (Sinitic group),
correct and replace by the following words
1. PRC, 2. non-Mandarin, 3. Mandarin (a language),
Maybe yes, maybe no -- it depends on what China intends to do with us once it achieves complete world domination (assuming it does).
One possibility is that they eliminate all non-Chinese from the earth, and expand into the cleared-out areas. In that scenario, why learn Chinese, since our role is simply to be killed off?
The word China (placename) may be mean Qin empire (state name), Han empire, Tang empire, Ming empire or Qing empire.
The other Sinitic (Chinese) languages; Wu, Cantonese, Min, Hakka, Gan, Xiang, Huizhou and Jin are existing in the eliminated situation in PRC.
So it's need to correct your words;
1. China, 2. non-Chinese, 3. Chinese (Sinitic group),
correct and replace by the following words
1. PRC, 2. non-Mandarin, 3. Mandarin (a language),
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