Confirmed: French and Spanish are vanishing

FS   Wed May 19, 2010 11:33 am GMT
The speakers of French and Spanish are killing each other.
Soon these two tribes will become extinct and French and Spanish will vanish into thin air.
latino   Wed May 19, 2010 1:01 pm GMT
!Que mas quisieras tú!

españa puede que desaparezca, nos lo estamos ganando a pulso.

Exactamente igual que vosotros con el inglés que hoy día "YA" es mas bien globissh que ingles.

Pero la ventaja nuestra es "lo latino" que ni de coña desaparece en contra de lo que ocuure con el "english impaire" y eso asegura el futuro del español, tus nietos hablarán español, es una pesadillas de futuro para tí que mal que te pese !se hará realidad!

EL FUTURO ES MESTIZO = LATINO
Franco   Thu May 20, 2010 2:48 pm GMT
El futuro es oscuro
-Sp-   Fri May 28, 2010 2:49 pm GMT
NUMBER OF WEBSITES WRITTEN IN THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGES:

English - 1,280,041,397
German - 182,005,546
French - 99,737,704
Japanese - 69,730,375 69,730,375
Spanish - 65,814,567

http://www.softcatala.org/articles/article26.htm
Franco   Fri May 28, 2010 3:38 pm GMT
My language is nearly as pathetic as I am.
FS -a fucking troll   Sat May 29, 2010 8:15 am GMT
@FS - Your brain is vanishing...
Alberto   Sat May 29, 2010 10:49 am GMT
Top Ten Languages Used in the Web
( Number of Internet Users by Language )

TOP TEN LANGUAGES
IN THE INTERNET


Internet Users
by Language


Internet
Penetration
by Language


Growth
in Internet
(2000 - 2009)


Internet Users
% of Total


World Population
for this Language
(2009 Estimate)

English


499,213,462


39.5 %


251.7 %


27.7 %


1,263,830,976

Chinese


407,650,713


29.7 %


1,162.0 %


22.6 %


1,373,859,774

Spanish


139,849,651


34.0 %


669.2 %


7.8 %


411,631,985

http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm
Albert   Sat May 29, 2010 12:01 pm GMT
In July 2003 BlogCensus suggested that there were 701,150 "sites we think are weblogs", of which 380,657 appeared to be in English. It claimed that Portuguese, (with 54,496 blogs), Polish (42,677) and Farsi (27,002) were the next most popular languages - well ahead of French (a mere 10,381) and German (7,736). On a per capita basis the language with highest blog penetration appeared to be Icelandic, with 3,542 blogs.

http://www.caslon.com.au/weblogprofile1.htm

Where's Spanish?
Homme Fatal   Sat May 29, 2010 12:06 pm GMT
The Growing "Net" Worth of French
September 2007

For those Americans who cannot breathe without someone to hate, France will always be a backward third world country, filled with convenient fodder for racist stereotyping. The rest of us might actually experience an attitudinal shift from a dose of reality. For instance, it is time to replace the 80s stereotypical image of the the Frenchman in Paris hunched over his Minitel terminal keyboard, messaging or playing an online game with someone in ... Now wait just a second here!! I thought this time travel thing was supposed to catch the French in some kind of culturally quaint, if not luddite pass-time. How could they be messaging and playing online games in the 80s? After all, it was not until the mid 90s that many of us in the US became thunderous warriors for primitive TDome.

It's time for "Net History 101". We need to know something about the French and network computing. Plans for the Minitel system as a low-cost terminal associated with an Electronic Directory service, were announced by Gérard Thery, General Director for Telecommunications in February of 1979 and tested in Saint-Maio (ille-et-Vilaine) in July 1980. By March of 1981, the French were putting a newspaper online, Le Parisien Libéré. though the formal launch of Minitel was 1982. By 1985, the French online gaming system, Funitel, was already averaging 100,000 of use per month.

Systran has been available on the French Minitel network since 1988. Minitel had a reasonably intelligent search engine and message boards, could make train and plane reservations, check stock prices, do mail-order retail. In its heyday, he old Minitel system had over 14 million subscribers (about a quarter of the French population) and 25 million users (43% of the French population) in the mid to late 1990s. Connection rate at that time was stable at around 100 million per month with 150 million online telephone directory inquiries. France was the world's most wired nation. Of course, the Minitel model was not adopted elsewhere, in spite of its British Telecom partner, Prestel.

The Minitel technology did not have the desired expandability and the unit pricing was all wrong for customer bases used to how cable TV was done. France, where many small business had grown up around Minitel, experienced its own dot-com bubble burst, and became temporarily isolated while they adapted. Because of the success of Minitel, and the attachment the French had for it, France did not join the Internet revolution in the same way that other countries did. In the heyday of dialup connections the state-owned telecommunications industry was slow to create a segway from the Minitel rates system, and could not make rates attractive enough to grow a solid customer base. During this period of adjustment, other areas of the Francophone world were not standing still. in 1998, Quebec, with less than 6% of the francophone population, hosted over 30% of the French language web content.

Don't count the French out yet. The number of French speakers logging on to the Internet grew by 200% between 2000 and 2005. In 2005, French language Internet content put French in third position after English and German. France is now cited among "Superstars of the Mobile Internet" by the World Summit on the Information Society, because it is ranked second in the number of people who use their mobile phones (or mobile networks) to download entertainment, exchange picture messages and access the Internet. No surprise that the country which invented the smart card and revolutionized cellular communications with their GSM system, should become leaders in ultra-portable hand-held Internet evolution. According to the comScore Networks Mobile Tracking Study (October 2006) as reported by the Center for Media Research, 28% of France's online population accesses the web from mobile phones. That is about 50% higher than the US. France is ahead of the US in another and very basic aspect of Internet use. In the latest stats from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation & Development (December 2006), France moved ahead of the U.S. in terms of broadband penetration. This report indicates that five of the fourteen top countries for "broadband subscribers per 100 inhabitants" have French as an official language. According to France's official ARCEP report, in the past two years, though the second quarter of 2007, increases in broadband subscriptions went up about 56%. With over 16 000 wireless access points in France, it currently ranks sixth worldwide for the number of WiFi Hotspots. In the summer of 2007, the city of Paris began executing a plan to set-up 400 free WiFi hot spots around a city which already ranks number one in Europe for its free WiFi hotspots. In 2005, at 29 hours and 43 minutes spent online per month for the average user, the French ranked third behind Australians and Brazilians in this category. Current estimates run as high as 40 hours per month.

For a while, online Internet retail in France lagged many of the Internet-connected countries However, growth of online sales in France for 2005 was 44%. 2006 was also a big year for online sales in France, which, from 16,000+ points of sale (web sites), grew by over 33%, to 9.3 billion euros, according to the conserve Benchmark Group study reported in an April 2007 issue of L'Economiste. Ecommerce Digest estimates that in 2004, 14% of all French retail sales were by e-business, and estimates for 2007 are for continued online sales growth of 25%.

Online sales is not the only area where French businesses are making Internet strides. E-administrative services are evolving and increasingly used by a growing French online population. The third edition of the “ADELE barometer for administration services online” carried out by BVA for the ADAE agency in March 2005, showed that 25% of French people had already carried out administrative procedures via the Internet. A 93% satisfaction rate, stated in the same survey is a sign of the efforts and ingenuity of French companies in using new technologies, and it should come as no surprise that France ranked third in the international “Performance of public services: new expectations, new experiences” survey in April 2005.

France's migration toward fiber-based broadband is a facilitator for innovations in Internet delivered media. France has the most-advanced IPTV market today and the most IPTV subscribers of any country. With over 2.6 million subscribing households, about 10 times the number in Britain, it is a leader in video-on-demand. France was also first in Microsoft's IPTV rollout in 2006. In Europe, The French are leaders when it comes to watching TV on the Web with 59 percent saying they view previews and episodes of their favorite shows online.

Continuing to look at French Internet uses, it is easy to see they are more passionate about blogs than we are. In May of 2006 alone, 60% of French Internet users visited blogs, while the figure was about half that in the US. In France, 52% of broadband connections involve voice-over-Internet protocol . The idea of unlimited telephony via Broadband seems to have caught on with technological innovations like Livebox, now the leading WiFi multiplay gateway in France, which passed the 2,000,000 user mark in April 2006. Since July 28, 2004, France, under the auspices of the "Association des Fournisseurs d'Accès", has had a charter for "Music and Internet" to facilitate the economy of legal distribution of digitally formatted music online, and the protection of its artistic creators.

A final note about network computing and its Minitel era: Minitel was popular not because the French fell in love with computing. Rather, it succeeded because there were no computing issues to deal with. Even now, only a little over 60% of French households actually own person personal computers. The French ISP Neuf Cegetel remembers how France responded to the simplicity of Minitel. They have developed a limited function personal mini-computer, about the size of a toaster, using a Linux operating system with a simple graphic user interface, which will be provided as part of their broadband service. If they succeed, it will not only boost the French broadband subscription statistics, but it may also advance the status of open source computing and the possibility of commercially competitive Linux-based operating systems.

Other French-speaking areas of the world are embracing Internet culture.

Canada's technological infrastructure is second only to the U.S. among the G7, particularly strong in number of computers and number of Internet hosts per 1000 people. It was one of the first countries in the world to embrace high-speed Internet. ISOC Quebec has a prize-winning plan for achieving 95% Internet connectivity in Quebec by 2017. Because of Canada's bilingual status, French-language content is relatively high

In Africa, French speaking countries generally have a higher profile on the web and greater institutional connectivity than the non-French speaking countries. In Cameroun UNITAR and ORSTOM have collaborated in a joint project focusing on technical capacity building in Sub-Saharan francophone Africa. Of university web sites in Sub-Saharan Africa, 20 come up in French as their primary language. If you add in some North African countries like Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia, the number goes way up. In some of the Francophone countries which had used Minitel, X.25 packet-switched based services (impractical in modern public Internet because of high-cost and traffic-based tariffs) are now used by banks and other large corporations requiring secure real-time low-volume data transactions such as credit card verification. In spite of very low wages, superstructure and other difficulties, Francophone African in countries like Sénégal, Morocco, and Bénin, well over 5% of the population were Internet users in 2005.

In a virtual cosmos of the Internet, where all languages share the same space, and where less than 30% of users are English speakers, other languages gain in importance. Naturally, the status of French on the Internet is going to be affected by the actual number of French speakers worldwide relative to the number of speakers in other languages. As we all know, arguments about the importance of a language based on raw demographic statistics have little validity, though even in this primitive statistic French is ranked sixth. It is when we consider the number of countries where French is an important Internet access language, the connectivity growth, type and quality in French-speaking countries, the number of French-language web hosts, the presence of French in page translation applications, the usage patterns of French speakers and the rate of expansion into immerging Internet media such as IPTV and wireless Internet from hand-held mobile devices, that we begin to understand the "net" worth of French.

TennesseeBob Peckham
University of Tennessee at Martin

http://www.utm.edu/staff/globeg/networth.html
Homme Fatal   Sat May 29, 2010 12:23 pm GMT
Homme Fatal   Sat May 29, 2010 12:42 pm GMT
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php?title=File:Foreign_languages_learnt_per_pupil_in_secondary_education_%281%29,_2002-2007_%28%25%29.PNG&filetimestamp=20100527083223

In the link above French made a great increase in:

Netherlands from 22.7% in 2002 to 70.3%
Austria from 42.8% in 2002 to 54.1%
Germany from 27.1% in 2002 to 27.4%
Czech Republic from 17.3% in 2002 to 24.5%
Iceland from 14.7% in 2002 to 17.1%
Slovakia from 12.4% in 2002 to16.0%
Slovenia from 9.1% in 2002 to 10.8%
Hungary from 6.3% in 2002 to 6.5%
Latvia from 3.1% in 2002 to 4.1%
-Sp-   Sat May 29, 2010 1:01 pm GMT
THE INCREASE OF SPANISH IN ICELAND IS IN SHORT TIME.

Fewer pupils in compulsory schools learn three foreign languages
During the past years the number of pupils learning Spanish has increased year by year. Now their number has decreased for the first time. Last year 455 pupils learned Spanish but were 548 in the previous school year, a decrease of 93 pupils or 17%. The number of pupils learning French and German also decreases.

http://www.statice.is/?PageID=444&newsid=3811
Homme Fatal   Sat May 29, 2010 1:16 pm GMT
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php?title=File:Foreign_languages_learnt_per_pupil_in_secondary_education_%281%29,_2002-2007_%28%25%29.PNG&filetimestamp=20100527083223

In the link above French made a great increase in:

Netherlands from 22.7% in 2002 to 70.3% 2007
Austria from 42.8% in 2002 to 54.1% 2007
Germany from 27.1% in 2002 to 27.4%
Czech Republic from 17.3% in 2002 to 24.5% 2007
Iceland from 14.7% in 2002 to 17.1% 2007
Slovakia from 12.4% in 2002 to16.0% 2007
Slovenia from 9.1% in 2002 to 10.8% 2007
Hungary from 6.3% in 2002 to 6.5% 2007
Latvia from 3.1% in 2002 to 4.1% 2007

But according to Statistics Iceland, "During the school year 2003-2004 354 pupils learned French while last school year 196 pupils learned French in compulsory schools."

http://www.statice.is/?PageID=444&newsid=3811

i wonder how can the data from both links be reconciled?
Alberto   Sun May 30, 2010 2:02 am GMT
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Where's Spanish?
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That's hilarious !
The link you posted claims to get its data from "The US National Institute for Technology & Liberal Education (NITL), BlogCensus"
and it links to it:
http://blogcensus.net/

But when you visit that "source", you are presented with the following:
Bienvenido a Blogcensus.net
Descargas Directas Gratis. Bajar películas, series, música, juegos etc.. Rapidshare Megaupload.

That's where Spanish is.
+Fr+ vs -Sp-   Sun May 30, 2010 1:02 pm GMT
En Espagne, l'enseignement du français a ainsi connu un nouvel élan dès lors que l'apprentissage d'une seconde langue s'est généralisé : le nombre d'élèves est passé de 250 000 en 1998 à 1,3 million aujourd'hui.

In Spain, the teaching of French has gained new momentum when learning a second language has become widespread: the number of students rose from 250,000 in 1998 to 1,300,000 today.

http://www.senat.fr/rap/r03-063/r03-0632.html