present or past?

Franco   Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:24 am GMT
Which is the correct variant of the following sentance?

After the conversation I knew that she LOVED Andy.

or

After the conversation I knew that she LOVES Andy.


Thank you very much.
Franco   Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:25 am GMT
That should be:

After the conversation, I knew that she LOVED Andy.

After the conversation, I knew that she LOVES Andy.
Guest   Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:04 am GMT
I think the second one is right but I don't really know because I don't speak english.
Mxsmanic   Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:06 pm GMT
Both are correct.

The first form implies that she either does not love Andy today, or that the status of her love today is not important.

The second implies that she still loves Andy today (and perhaps has loved him indefinitely in the past as well).
Pos   Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:55 pm GMT
<Both are correct.

The first form implies that she either does not love Andy today, or that the status of her love today is not important. >

What about here?

Dan: After the conversation I had with her this morning, I knew she loved Andy.

Molly: Lucky Andy. Do you think she'll tell him?
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What does that "not important today" mean?
ali   Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:22 pm GMT
second sentense is correct
Ant_222   Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:43 pm GMT
If it was part of a narrative story (a tale) the second would be the only correct.

But:

— He can't have done it, he loves her!
— Really? When did that came to you? You have known them for as short as a couple of weeks...
— After the yesterday's conversation I knew that she LOVES Andy.
Ant_222   Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:13 pm GMT
Mistake: the last sentence should have been:
— After the yesterday's conversation I knew that he LOVES her.

Now it makes sence.
Ant_222   Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:30 pm GMT
Pos, I missed you post with an example similar to mine.

┬źDan: After the conversation I had with her this morning, I knew she loved Andy.

Molly: Lucky Andy. Do you think she'll tell him?┬╗

Even if this is correct, the Present Simple variant is correct too, maybe even "more" correct.