come vs cum - what is the difference?

francia   Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:44 pm GMT
im confused.
Guest   Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:02 pm GMT
-cum- is put between two nouns to form a noun referring to something or someone that is partly one thing and partly another.

e.g ...a dining-room-cum-study...

come


When a person or thing comes to a particular place, especially to a place where you are, they move there.

Two police officers came into the hall...
Come here, Tom...
You'll have to come with us...
We heard the train coming...
Can I come too?...
Guest   Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:58 pm GMT
"Cum" can also mean semen.
Uriel   Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:43 am GMT
They're the same, if you're referring to the sexual sense of the word.
Damian in Dun Eidann   Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:18 pm GMT
There are actual place names in England (only in England......not in Scotland or Wales, as far as I can discover) which have the word "cum" as part of the name.

It comes from the Latin, and simply means "cum", which basically means "with" in the sense of one name being linked to another with regard to two separate communities, usually small villages, in close proximity to each other and which ultimately became one single community more or less.

England has many hundreds of such small villages* (some which later developed into small towns. Such was the case with the most well known: Chorlton-cum-Hardy, which is now part of Greater Manchester.

Here are a couple more, just a few of many (village)cum(village) place names scattered across England:


Attercliffe-cum-Darnall (Yorkshire)
Upton-cum-Chalvey (Buckinghamshire)

and the cool sounding Shingay-cum-Wendy (Cambridgeshire).

A lot of place names in the UK have foreign sounding parts to their names, most of them from the Latin, as in the "cum" example here. Of the many are "juxta" (meaning next to), "via" (on the way to), "magna" (meaning the larger of the two), "parva" (the smaller of the two), "sub" (meaning under), "super" (meaning on or above). All of this is due to historical origins way, way, way back in time. French has an influence as well, as in Ashby-de-la Zouch (Leicestershire) and Chapel-en-le-Frith (Derbyshire) and so on. Others are just plain old English as in Moreton-in-Marsh and Stow-on-the-Wold (both in Gloucestershire.

Other places just joined their two names together with nothing in between and there are countless numbers of these place names right across the country, including Scotland and Wales (in Wales, of course, they are almost entirely Welsh).

Sutton Coldfield (West Midlands)
Shelsley Beauchamp (Worcestershire)
Stretton Grandison (Herefordshire)
Worth Matravers (Dorset)
Wyre Piddle (yes..honestly! it's in Worcestershire)
Kingston Bagpuize (Oxfordshire)
Pratts Bottom (in Greater London)
Abinger Hammer (Surrey)
Pity Me (yep! it's in County Durham)
Chew Magna (Leicestershire)
Weston Zoyland (Somerset)
Blaenau Ffestiniog (Wales)
Langton Herring (Dorset)
Sots Hole (Lincolnshire)
Whiteladies Aston (Warwickshire)
Tumby Woodside (Nottinghamshire)
Hellions Bumpstead (Essex)
Rickinghall Inferior (Hertfordshire)
Shellow Bowells (Essex)

Double barreled place names (very common in England) are virtually unknown here in Scotland (apart from places such as Fort Augustus or Fort William, which are a separate case)...ours usually have connecting links, as in Yetts o'Muckhart, the o' bit mean, of course simply "of", as also in John o'Groats.
Damian in Dun Eidann   Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:23 pm GMT
Correction: slight contradiction in my last post:

***there are countless numbers of these place names right across the country, including Scotland and Wales***

***Double barreled place names (very common in England) are virtually unknown here in Scotland***

Double barreleds exist in Wales, but as in the second paragraph above, much rarer in Scotland. soz
Stan   Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:27 am GMT
<< im confused. >>

Francia,

How come I get the feeling that this is just one of those false gestures and attempts to relate obscenity under the cover of an innocent inquisition. I am astonish that this topic has so far recieved this much attention.

I do not think your query deserves a response, especially when one's cognizance cannot avoid the mammoth obscenity and disgust that is associated with that word. How dare you come up with such a topic.
Stan   Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:28 am GMT
<< I am astonish that this topic has so far recieved this much attention. >>

I am astonished (correction)
Uriel   Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:08 am GMT
If you don't think her query deserves a response, why do you insist on responding to it?
M56   Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:40 am GMT
<Francia,

How come I get the feeling that this is just one of those false gestures and attempts to relate obscenity under the cover of an innocent inquisition. I am astonish that this topic has so far recieved this much attention. >

What is obscene about the word "cum" when referring to semen or orgasm? It's just a slang/informal word for the same.

And there's also:


cum [ kum ]


preposition

Definitions:

with: together with, along with, in combination with, or functioning as ( informal )
He lives and works in an apartment cum office.


[Late 19th century. < Latin, "with"]
Uriel   Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:15 am GMT
<<What is obscene about the word "cum" when referring to semen or orgasm?>>

Well, apparently there are those who would prefer that we all just pretend that those things don't exist. And never, EVER speak of them.
Candy   Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:31 am GMT
Yes, something that naturally occurs in 50% of the population of the world (not to mention the animal kingdom, etc) is obviously a huge obscenity and perversion.
Amorador   Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:33 pm GMT
They probably find it repulsive because of it's massive use in the porn industry....
Damian in Dun Eidann   Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:35 pm GMT
I'm sorry to say this, Stan, but many of your posts give me the impression that you are a wanker. Now go and associate that with your anti 'mammoth obscenity and disgust' crusade. If I ever met up with you at a party, pal (mostly unlikely thank goodness...oops! how can I possibly relate myself to goodness!!!) I would head for the nearest exit.

Here in the UK a wanker is not always a guy connected with the topic that has caused you to explode into yet another moral hissy fit. It also means a guy who is an 'eejut', as they would say in Baile Atha Cliath.