Oldest writing on Earth found in ROMANIA

Sorin   Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:42 am GMT
In Transylvania, it was the discovery in 1961 of three inscribed tablets TARTARIA TABLETS regarding the possibility that writing in the Danube basin predated the earliest Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphics.

Did any one of you ever heard of the NEOLITHIC (Stone age) ROMANIAN - TARTARIA TABLETS ? The oldest WRITING SYSTEM IN THE WORLD discovered so far ? (1000 years older than the Mesopotamian writings!!!)

It was dated with CARBON 14 by the American, and International scientists from all over the world. It is a perplexing mystery...

Here is the encyclopedic article in several languages:

http://www.prehistory.it/ftp/tartaria_tablets/tartaria_tablets_01.htm
(here is an ITALIAN SITE ( in English ) by Marco Merlini

The three ROMANIAN Tărtăria tablets are probably amulets or votive tablets, which bear incised symbols that are claimed to be the EARLIEST KNOWN FORM OF WRITING IN THE WORLD. The tablets are named after Tărtăria-Alba County, -Transylvania -Romania, where they WERE FOUND.
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IN FRENCH (ROMANIAN TARTARIA 4500 avant JC )

Petite localité au centre de la Roumanie, lieu d'une découverte exceptionnelle, dont la signification reste encore un mystère.

« Plus tard, on va établir par datation au carbone 14 en Russie et Italie, qu'elles pourraient avoir jusqu'à 1000 ans de plus que les tables de Sumer (entre 4500 et 5000 avant JC). La période historique placent ces découvertes comme appartenant à la civilisation Vinča.

Comparaison avec la Mésopotamie

Des savants russes, américains, bulgares et britanniques suggèrent que le peuple de Sumer a émigré vers l'Orient à partir de l'espace carpato-danubien, ce qui pourrait expliquer les différences surprenantes entre les Sumériens et leurs voisins sémites.
Voici le nom traditionnel des villes voisines de la découverte:

• Tartaria
• Urastie
• Simeria
• Kugir

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IN SPANISH- "Tableta circular con signos incisos, interpretada como una forma de protoescritura, del emplazamiento arqueológico de Tartaria (Rumania), c. 5000 aC."

“El descubrimiento de tablillas escritas en Tartaria (Rumanía) ha puesto en cuarentena las presunciones vigentes en relación al emplazamiento y la datación del origen de la civilización.”
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SUMERIAN TOWNS IN ROMANIA

Tartaria
Urastie
Simeria
Kugir

Carpato-Danubiano-Pontic = (carpathians mountains+Danube river +pontus = black sea-in greek) is where modern Romania is located where the oldest form of writing system in the world was discovered.

Brennus – I know you are interested in history – check this out :

Tartaria Tablets in Romania
What explanation can be given to the fact that three clay tablets
containing Sumerian pictographs made with local Romanian clay, (dated with carbon 14 by American scientist) but 1000 years
older than the oldest cuneiform tablets found in Mesopotamia (Mesopotamia is an ancient country located in Asia between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in present day Iraq) are found in a ROMANIAN region where the surrounding cities have Sumerian names:

1.URASTIE, Sumerian name (Romanian town named ORASTIE )

2.SIMERIA (Romanian town ) deriving from SUMER - SUMERIA (Latin)

3.KUGIR (Sumerian name) – Romanian CUGIR

Carpato-Danubiano-Pontic = (carpathians mountains+Danube river +pontus = black sea-in Greek) is where modern Romania is located - where the oldest form of writing system in the world was discovered so far… not in Egypt or Sumer!

Civilizatia incepe la Sumerieni ! Nu la Romani !
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A HISTORY OF THE WHITE RACE

"Above: Undeciphered writing on the Tartaria tablet, found in Tartaria, RUMANIA and dated at 4500 BC - this competes with the Azilian script for the claim to the OLDEST WRITING ON EARTH !"

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:zEywj5FQ2RcJ:www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr3.htm+%22Above:+Undeciphered+writing+on+the+Tartaria+tablet,+found+in+Tartaria,+Rumania,+and+dated+at+4500+BC+-+this+competes+with+the+Azilian+script+for+the+claim+to+the+oldest+writing+on+earth.%22&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1
Sorin   Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:46 am GMT
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Patrocinio del
Comune di Roma
Dipartimento XIV
The Global Prehistory Consortium at EURO INNOVANET

Milady Tărtăria and the riddle of dating Tărtăria tablets
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Guest   Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:07 pm GMT
With a quick glance, I can tell you there is at least one mistake. You cant date stone with carbon 14, since it never was living and hence, no carbon. So, unless these tablet were made in wood or something, they certainly didnt use carbon 14
Guest   Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:01 am GMT
Guest, you made a reading mistake. They are not stones , they are made from clay which has organic material inside, Clay can be dated with carbon 14 successefully. Also a women skeleton was found with the tablets, the same age as the tablets, dating from 5000 bc. The writings are pictographic not cuneiform, I don’t think they are Sumerian. It’s a mystery.
*CarloS*   Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:20 am GMT
Otra razón más para hacer a Rumania más interesante. =)
Guest   Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:27 pm GMT
If you are interested in studing ancient writings you may check this out:

http://www.institutet-science.com/introe.htm

There is an information about recent discovery and method of reading of 2 very old tablets (5000-4000 bc) found in the teritory of Bulgaria about 45-50 years ago
Viri Amaoro   Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:52 pm GMT
Too bad Romania can't lay a claim to that cultural (first) innovation, as there were no romanians then.
a.p.a.m.   Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:43 pm GMT
It appears that these forums have been hijacked by an immature loudmouth who only mouths off endlessly about anything Romanian.
van Aken   Sat May 13, 2006 1:45 pm GMT
There were really no rumanians in Transylvania that time. History is history. National pride (or nationalism) is something else!!!
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Serbo-Canadian in China   Tue May 16, 2006 4:53 am GMT
The Vinca Alphabet (Vinca is a suburb of Belgrade, Serbia) predates these tablets found in what is nowadays Romania.

Moreover Old European Script is properly called "Vinca Alphabet" in archaeolinguistics.


http://www.omniglot.com/writing/vinca.htm

http://www.recipeland.com/facts/Vinca_script

http://bvio.ngic.re.kr/Bvio/index.php/Old_European_Script

http://www.answers.com/topic/old-european-script
Also   Tue May 16, 2006 5:00 am GMT