I'm curious about how people pronounce "background". I pronounce it as ["b{kraUnd], with no [g], as if it were "back-round". Does anyone else do this?
Pronunciation of "background"
Ye. I do summat similar. 'cept I pronounce it "Bah-Kround" With the emphasis on the "Bah" and the "Kround" much softer.
I myself pronounce it similarly, as ["bE{k:\Ra:U~nt_X] or ["bE{kRa:U~nt_X], simply because at least in my dialect at least, no obstruents of differing voicing may come next to each other (even across word boundaries), whatever the reason for their differing voicing may be; I strongly suspect this is also the case for many if not most other NAE dialects as well.
As for the use of half-voicing in [k:\], what that is marking is actually the normal length of a fortis unvoiced stop followed by that of a lenis unvoiced stop resulting from the devoicing of /g/; however in some instances I seem to lose said /g/ altogether rather than assimilating it to a preceding /k/, like in your example.
As for the use of half-voicing in [k:\], what that is marking is actually the normal length of a fortis unvoiced stop followed by that of a lenis unvoiced stop resulting from the devoicing of /g/; however in some instances I seem to lose said /g/ altogether rather than assimilating it to a preceding /k/, like in your example.
I say it the way its written. If I try it your way I sound like a Scouser.
The Frank are not a predominant group. during the invasion their number was estimated to less than 100 000, over a gallo-roman population of 20 million people !! The Frankish influence is negligeable.
On the other hand, other germanic invaders have settled in other regions (wisigoths in the south and in Spain), burgondians in the east, etc.
in the south most cities were Greek ports long time before roman invaions; the Greek influence in the mediterranean region was very deep.
And , finally was represent 100 000 Franks in comparision with millions of Italian, Spanish, Polish, Portuguese , North Africans and African Immigrants ?? Very few; Linguistically we have only less than 500 words of Frankish origin - let's compare it with words with Greek or Arabic origins !... The main thing that the Franks left to us is their name; that's all. but this is not because "french" and "frank" look similar that nowadays they have the same meaning. German or Dutch people are "ethnically " a thousand times more "franks" than us.
On the other hand, other germanic invaders have settled in other regions (wisigoths in the south and in Spain), burgondians in the east, etc.
in the south most cities were Greek ports long time before roman invaions; the Greek influence in the mediterranean region was very deep.
And , finally was represent 100 000 Franks in comparision with millions of Italian, Spanish, Polish, Portuguese , North Africans and African Immigrants ?? Very few; Linguistically we have only less than 500 words of Frankish origin - let's compare it with words with Greek or Arabic origins !... The main thing that the Franks left to us is their name; that's all. but this is not because "french" and "frank" look similar that nowadays they have the same meaning. German or Dutch people are "ethnically " a thousand times more "franks" than us.
Franks, Burgundians, Visigoths, Vandals, Lomdards, Ostrogoths all over France... same thing really. But whoever "us" is, makes such sound like mongrels or aliens... a thousand times? Gosh, why not 999 or 25 times?
But whoever "us" is, makes such sound like mongrels or aliens... a thousand times? Gosh, why not 999 or 25 times? Sure, why not?
My girlfriend's been Jim. I know him since he was six in Poland. I taught him English. He's still leaning English. Who cares, guys?
My girlfriend's been Jim. I know him since he was six in Poland. I taught him English. He's still leaning English. Who cares, guys?
<<I'm curious about how people pronounce "background". I pronounce it as ["b{kraUnd], with no [g], as if it were "back-round". Does anyone else do this>>
That's interesting. The /g/ isn't dropped in my pronunciation. I pronounce it as /bak.graUn/ with a fortis fully voiced /k/.
That's interesting. The /g/ isn't dropped in my pronunciation. I pronounce it as /bak.graUn/ with a fortis fully voiced /k/.
Sometimes I drop the g, sometimes I don't. I would say I usually drop the 'g' though. Now I want to the Almond Joy/Mounds commercial tune...
Me too. In fact, I had to start to a thread just to discuss my lazy pronunciation.