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Aquatar   Fri May 26, 2006 9:09 pm GMT
sorry, I meant 'I suggest he tells them that' in the last BE example
Aquatar   Fri May 26, 2006 9:15 pm GMT
Although, having said that, I do think the subjunctive is still likely to be used in written BE.
D6266KB   Fri May 26, 2006 10:17 pm GMT
"I would have thought that grammatically speaking AE is more complicated."

The answer is no.
Fu Man Chu   Sat May 27, 2006 5:46 am GMT
>>Mr. Fu: What dialect would that be? My feng shui specialist pronounces it "fung shway", which is how every book I've read says it's pronounced.<<

It matters not. Refer to the all-important post on the pronunciation of 'Chiang Kai-shek'.
Russell   Sat May 27, 2006 8:03 am GMT
They're called number plates in Australia too.
Fu Man Chu   Sat May 27, 2006 8:10 am GMT
>>I could list other words where the British forms are a little more complex than the American: British jag-yoo-ahr and nik-uh-rag-yoo-er vs American jag-war and nik-uh-rogg-wuh (jaguar, Nicaragua) and British papp-ee-ur mah-shay vs American English pei-pr muh-say (papier mâché ) but I think that one example suffices in many cases.<<

One example satisfies what exactly? A drop in the ocean of a myriad of words. There are British words that are pronounced with fewer syllables too. BE:terit'ry vs AE:territory, BE: bat'ry vs AE: battery...

A couple of examples is a bizarre way of judging things to derive a conclusion.
Aquatar   Sat May 27, 2006 10:55 am GMT
'Keeping things "simple" is very much in the American tradition'

What about BE Public Transport vesus AE Public Transportation?
Uriel   Sat May 27, 2006 10:24 pm GMT
We have public transportation? ;)
Fu Man Chu   Sun May 28, 2006 12:02 am GMT
Brennus,

RE: "True. However it is the big picture (The macropicture) that you have to look at; not the little picture (micropicture)."

So the microscopic 'Chiang Kai-shek' is the big macroscopic picture you speak of? If one were to pronounce it with an American rhotic accent, that would make it even harder!


RE: "Strange, for centuries your people dispensed wisdom to westerners and now here I am, a westerner dispensing wisdom to you."

Ahhh, phenomenal, incredible and compelling! Your style of edification is most enlightening.
Kirk   Sun May 28, 2006 12:03 am GMT
<<Strange, for centuries your people dispensed wisdom to westerners and now here I am, a westerner dispensing wisdom to you.>>

Wow. You've almost outdone yourself this time, Brennus. The 18th century called. And it wants its cultural condescention back.
Tyrone   Sun May 28, 2006 12:04 am GMT
Brennus, with tact and poise as befitting a man of his station:
"True. However it is the big picture (The macropicture) that you have to look at; not the little picture (micropicture). Strange, for centuries your people dispensed wisdom to westerners and now here I am, a westerner dispensing wisdom to you."

Three things

1) Putting macro in front of the word picture does not make you sound smart, elegant or even interesting. Period.

2) Are you serious? "For centuries "your people" dispensed wisdom to westerners???" Are you so wrapped up in cultural condescention or simply daft?

3) "here i am, a westerner dispensing wisdom to you." Here's a suggestion, read Edward Said's Orientalism and learn a bit more about your own arrogant self-infatuation. Sigh.
Kirk   Sun May 28, 2006 12:08 am GMT
<<True. However it is the big picture (The macropicture) that you have to look at; not the little picture (micropicture).>>

That'll be enough of the "micropicture" and "macropicture" terminology for the day. We get the concepts. However, your information is still inaccurate, your claims faulty, and your examples irrelevant.
Fu Man Chu   Sun May 28, 2006 12:08 am GMT
For such a wise moderator, Brennus sure knows a thing or two about...









...a thing or two.
Kirk   Sun May 28, 2006 12:10 am GMT
<<For such a wise moderator, Brennus sure knows a thing or two about...









...a thing or two.>>

Couldn't have put it better myself.
Tyrone   Sun May 28, 2006 12:12 am GMT
<<<For such a wise moderator, Brennus sure knows a thing or two about...









...a thing or two.>>>

Brilliantly put. And to think, us westerners have been trying to teach 'you people.'

Ha. well done, Fu.