how to pronunce "er" in American English?

Guest   Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:29 pm GMT
Here are some words I speak, "car park her hurt "

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/77d9bda8/bc/english/carparkherhurt.wav.wav?bfa05EDBotdK4W..

Do I speak correct and is the "R" sound enough?Thanks!
ridouan_wow@hotmail.com   Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:25 pm GMT
thank you for all thing
Student   Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:06 pm GMT
i tried to pronounce "er" with all the suggested methods and I CANT.
These rules are for native speakers. i am not native.
Could you please anybody give another method?
What do you do FAR DEEP IN THE MOUTH?
Thank you.
wasi   Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:22 am GMT
is the mouth open or close when pronouncing the american r?
Guest   Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:40 am GMT
Is that R-colored shwa considered a syllabic consonant or a vowel?
the second syllable in ''iron'' has syllabic R, while the second syllable in ''siren'' has shwa as a vowel.
furrykef   Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:11 pm GMT
<< is the mouth open or close when pronouncing the american r? >>

Definitely open. I don't think it's possible to pronounce an "r" sound in any language with a closed mouth.

<< Is that R-colored shwa considered a syllabic consonant or a vowel? >>

I would myself consider the r-colored schwa a vowel. American English dictionaries often don't annotate it that way, though: they typically use a smaller schwa symbol followed by an "r". This probably has more to do with convention than with phonetics. IPA consideres it to be a vowel and not a syllabic consonant: it has its own symbol, "ɚ", whereas a syllabic 'r' would be notated with "r̩" -- the "r" symbol with a little comma-like mark as a diacritic.

The letter "R" (as opposed to the sound it represents) is never considered a vowel, though: the conventional list that I was taught as a child is "A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y". I never even encountered the idea that "R" could represent a full vowel until fairly recently, but it makes sense.

- Kef
Milton   Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:24 pm GMT
''I never even encountered the idea that "R" could represent a full vowel until fairly recently, but it makes sense.''


Well, in Scottish English, R might be a vowel... just like in Czech , Slovak or SerboCroatian... the word KRK in C, S, SC sounds like the Scottish pronunciation of the word KIRK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocalic_r

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-colored_vowel
chiquitta   Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:18 pm GMT
It's hard to understand how to pronounce the "r" from word descriptions alone.

Does anyone know if there's VIDEO AND EXPLANATION about pronouncing the American "r" available on the web?? Please share.
wasi   Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:08 pm GMT
It is very hard for me to pull my tongue bach because of my native language "R" .What should I do?