Almond and Palm without the "l" sound very off around here, and I've never heard a native pronounce either of those without the "l". But maybe some do--they're not the most common words. "Half" is usually pronounced the same as "have" and to "halve". Other words such as "balm" all have the "l". I didn't understand what someone wanted when she asked for the "lip bomb". (she was from Utah.)
How do you pronounce "palm"
*and by native I mean native of this area, not a native English speaker.
<<The spelling pronunciation form ["Q:U~mI~:nd] is used for "almond" here, unlike "palm" where the non-spelling pronunciation form is most prevalent here.>>
That pattern applies to me as well. I use l-less pronunciations for:
palm: ["p_hAm]
balm: ["bAm]
But I use a with-L pronunciation for:
almond ["A5m@nd]
That pattern applies to me as well. I use l-less pronunciations for:
palm: ["p_hAm]
balm: ["bAm]
But I use a with-L pronunciation for:
almond ["A5m@nd]
I can say palm either with or without the L. Usually it's got a hint of the L without being a full L, if that makes sense. A little more than I would put in calm, which has no L for me. I don't think you can accurately say that I have any particular regional accent, as I've lived all over the US.
The only place I've ever heard almond said without the L is in northern California, where it struck me as a weird regional thing.
The only place I've ever heard almond said without the L is in northern California, where it struck me as a weird regional thing.
I live in Southern California, and I have never heard "palm" pronounced without the L (unless it was being said by someone with a really heavy foreign accent). So, I don't know where people are getting the idea that the L-less pronunciation is regional of the Southwest.
Meesh.
Meesh.
>> A little more than I would put in calm, which has no L for me. <<
I have the "l" in calm as well. Kahm is understandable though, because it's not like "balm" that can be confused with "bomb".
I have the "l" in calm as well. Kahm is understandable though, because it's not like "balm" that can be confused with "bomb".
>> [pAM, kAm, pAl, fAl] <<
Do you actually use a close back unrounded vowel in "palm"?
Do you actually use a close back unrounded vowel in "palm"?
I do pronounce the l. I think that my pronunciation would be closest to [pOlm]. I'm from Minnesota.
>> I do pronounce the l. I think that my pronunciation would be closest to [pOlm]. I'm from Minnesota. <<
Yay! Finally another "l" pronouncer! We l-pronouncers are much cooler than ordinary folk! :)
Yay! Finally another "l" pronouncer! We l-pronouncers are much cooler than ordinary folk! :)
"I have the "l" in calm as well. Kahm is understandable though, because it's not like "balm" that can be confused with "bomb". "
I pronounce balm [bOlm], but bomb [bam]. It seems that the l helps prevent the O-->a.
I pronounce balm [bOlm], but bomb [bam]. It seems that the l helps prevent the O-->a.
>> I pronounce balm [bOlm], but bomb [bam]. It seems that the l helps prevent the O-->a <<
So is that the Northern cities vowel shift?
So is that the Northern cities vowel shift?
"I live in Southern California, and I have never heard "palm" pronounced without the L (unless it was being said by someone with a really heavy foreign accent). So, I don't know where people are getting the idea that the L-less pronunciation is regional of the Southwest."
I live in Southern California, and I've never heard it pronounced with an "L".
I live in Southern California, and I've never heard it pronounced with an "L".