Do you have a glottal stop before the [t] in "thirteen", "fourteen" and "nineteen"? I do.
"thirteen" [fr\=?tin]
"fourteen" [for\?tin]
"nineteen" [naIn?tin]
"thirteen" [fr\=?tin]
"fourteen" [for\?tin]
"nineteen" [naIn?tin]
Glottaling in "thirteen" etc.
Yeah, I have that as well - and I also have it in "eighteen". (Except that I consider it a /t/ which is unreleased, [t_}]. But I think that [t_}t] and [?t] are so nearly identical that I could use either interpretation. Note, of course, that for simplicity's sake I don't usually mark unreleased consonants in my speech; my pre-pausal pronunciation of "cat", for example, is really ["k_h{t_}], but I would normally just transcribe it as ["k_h{t]. But I digress.)
So I have:
thirteen ["T3`t.t_hin] (or more precisely, ["T3`t_}.t_hin] or ["T3`?.t_hin])
fourteen ["fO@`t.t_hin]
eighteen ["eIt.t_hin]
nineteen ["n6Int.t_hin]
So I have:
thirteen ["T3`t.t_hin] (or more precisely, ["T3`t_}.t_hin] or ["T3`?.t_hin])
fourteen ["fO@`t.t_hin]
eighteen ["eIt.t_hin]
nineteen ["n6Int.t_hin]
I only have that for 'eighteen', which is composed of [e?] and [ti~], and form [e?ti~].
How about 'twenty' how do you all pronounce it? I say [twE~ti] when I'm being careful, but often [twV~4~i] in casual speech.
How about 'twenty' how do you all pronounce it? I say [twE~ti] when I'm being careful, but often [twV~4~i] in casual speech.
I almost always pronounce it ["t_hwEni], although I might occasionally say ["t_hwEnti] in careful speech.
I pronounce "twenty", in most everyday speech, as ["t_hwVi~] ([Vi~] being a falling diphthong), in slightly careful speech, as ["t_hwV~4~i:], or, in very careful speech, as ["t_hwV~nti:]
I have this for "thirteen", "fourteen", "eighteen", but not "nineteen":
thirteen ["Tr=?ti~:n]
fourteen ["fOR?ti~:n]
eighteen ["e?ti~:n]
nineteen ["naI~ti~:n] (I don't know why raising isn't occurring here)
thirteen ["Tr=?ti~:n]
fourteen ["fOR?ti~:n]
eighteen ["e?ti~:n]
nineteen ["naI~ti~:n] (I don't know why raising isn't occurring here)
Actually, I may sometimes still have glottaling for "nineteen" sporadically, as ["naI~?ti~:n],
<<nineteen ["naI~ti~:n] (I don't know why raising isn't occurring here)>>
Probably because it's "nine" + "teen", so it doesn't go through any raising.
Probably because it's "nine" + "teen", so it doesn't go through any raising.
>>I only have that for 'eighteen', which is composed of [e?] and [ti~], and form [e?ti~].<<
I have similar alternation between [ti~:n] and [ti~:] in practice here, with the latter very frequently showing up in rapid speech. However, I very frequently elide final /n/ across the board in rapid speech, just leaving the preceding vowels nasalized, especially in less stressed words. Consequently, this sort of loss of [n] is not at all unique to the morpheme "teen" here, even though this is a place where such elision occurs very frequently in practice.
I have similar alternation between [ti~:n] and [ti~:] in practice here, with the latter very frequently showing up in rapid speech. However, I very frequently elide final /n/ across the board in rapid speech, just leaving the preceding vowels nasalized, especially in less stressed words. Consequently, this sort of loss of [n] is not at all unique to the morpheme "teen" here, even though this is a place where such elision occurs very frequently in practice.