wich language would italian native speaker uderstand better

Stefan   Sun May 13, 2007 12:04 am GMT
wich language would italian native speaker uderstand better, without learning it?
Is it Spanish, Franch or Romanian?
Guest   Sun May 13, 2007 12:53 am GMT
Interlingua
furrykef   Sun May 13, 2007 1:12 am GMT
I would guess Spanish, but not very well. French has way too much elision, and Romanian is probably just too... different. The main reason why Spanish and Italian aren't mutually intelligible is the different vocabulary.

- Kef
Guest   Sun May 13, 2007 6:17 am GMT
'I would guess Spanish, but not very well.'

Well, yes and no. Depending on the speaker abilities to gather enough information to make sense, also, what country / province of origin he or she is from and his or her knowledge about the language. Both speakers would likely comprehend eachother more, if both have clear accents.


'The main reason why Spanish and Italian aren't mutually intelligible is the different vocabulary.'

True. Spanish has much of its vocabulay lineage from Classical-latin and (somewhat) Arabic. Moreover Italian has much of its vocabulary lineage from Vulgar-latin. Consequently both are mutually intelligible to various degrees due to the medium holdings they hold in Vulgar-latin.

It also helps that both are phonetic tongues, which means that either speaker can at least get the gist of what a person is saying.
Ita   Wed May 16, 2007 1:03 pm GMT
Spanish, without a doubt, if not spoken excessively fast. Written French should be pretty understandable for an educated Italian, but spoken French is quite unintelligible without prior training. Romanian isn't very understandable either because of the declinations which make some familiar words sound unfamiliar.
Guest   Wed May 16, 2007 2:54 pm GMT
>> True. Spanish has much of its vocabulay lineage from Classical-latin and (somewhat) Arabic. Moreover Italian has much of its vocabulary lineage from Vulgar-latin. Consequently both are mutually intelligible to various degrees due to the medium holdings they hold in Vulgar-latin. <<

Actually Italian has more words that are identical to Classical Latin than Spanish does. I remember reading a poem that is correct Italian and correct Classical Latin. Both languages are derived from vulgar Latin.
Guest   Wed May 16, 2007 3:51 pm GMT
Italian derives partly by vulgar Latin but it doesn't resemble Latin at all, this is a myth.
furrykef   Wed May 16, 2007 10:27 pm GMT
You might be thinking of the Veronese Riddle:

Se pareba boves
alba pratalia araba
albo versorio teneba
negro semen seminaba

But it's neither Italian nor Latin, being something of a mixture of both.

You can read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veronese_Riddle

- Kef
Guest   Wed May 16, 2007 11:59 pm GMT
'Actually Italian has more words that are identical to Classical Latin than Spanish does. I remember reading a poem that is correct Italian and correct Classical Latin. Both languages are derived from vulgar Latin.'


Yeah, I agree. But Spanish has word-conjugations / grammar and some words that are indentical to that of Classical Latin than Italian does.

For example:

By just reading and looking at this, I can say that this paragraph has the imperfect preterite in place and has several words I know.

"Se pareba boves
alba pratalia araba
albo versorio teneba
negro semen seminaba"

Latin / Spanish:
Se = Se / el
Boves = bueyes
Pratalia = prados
Arabat = Araba
Tenebat = Tenia
Nigrum= Negro
Semen = Semilla
Seminabat= Sembraba
etc.
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