Northern Cities Vowel Shift

Guest   Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:39 am GMT
I'm trying to learn to speak like I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift. Is it just a matter of pronouncing the vowels as below, or is there more to it than that?
ket cut
cut cot
caught cot
cot cot
cat kee-at
Another Guest   Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:10 pm GMT
Does the Northern Cities Vowel shift really have a cot-caught-cut merger? I don't think so.
Lazar   Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:15 pm GMT
<<Does the Northern Cities Vowel shift really have a cot-caught-cut merger?>>

No. In NCVS speech, "caught" would be [kAt] and "cot" would be [kat].
Davis   Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:22 am GMT
and coffee would be [kAfi]
coffee [kAfi] is Californian English as well :)
Another Guest   Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:23 am GMT
<<No. In NCVS speech, "caught" would be [kAt] and "cot" would be [kat].>>

What about ''cut'', does it merge with ''cot'' or ''caught'' in the Northern Cities Shift? Guest is suggesting the all three of ''cot'', ''caught'' and ''cut'' merge in the Northern Cities Shift.
Al   Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:53 am GMT
All three of ''cot'', ''caught'' and ''cut'' are distinct in the Northern Cities Shift.

cut - /kVt/ shifted to /kOt/

caught - /kOt/ shifted to /kAt/

cot - /kAt/ shifted to /kat/
GA   Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:27 am GMT
hwatta mess :)