How do you pronounce the words "bag", "beg", and "vague"?
Bag, beg, and vague
I pronounce these as:
"bag" : /b{g/ -> [b{:g]
"beg" : /bEg/ -> [bE:g]
"vague" : /veg/ -> [ve:g]
"bag" : /b{g/ -> [b{:g]
"beg" : /bEg/ -> [bE:g]
"vague" : /veg/ -> [ve:g]
Interesting.
When I read from a wordlist, they tend to be (IITTC):
bag [beːg]
beg [bɛːg]
vague [veɪːg]
but in casual speech they tend to be:
bag [beːg]
beg [beːg]
vague [veːg]
so if someone says "He is a bagger", I have to ask whether he bags groceries, or begs for money. And all words with "ag" seem to be like this--haggel sounds just like Hegel.
When I read from a wordlist, they tend to be (IITTC):
bag [beːg]
beg [bɛːg]
vague [veɪːg]
but in casual speech they tend to be:
bag [beːg]
beg [beːg]
vague [veːg]
so if someone says "He is a bagger", I have to ask whether he bags groceries, or begs for money. And all words with "ag" seem to be like this--haggel sounds just like Hegel.
I've read somewhere that some peeple pronounce "egg" as /eIg/. Is it true?
<<I've read somewhere that some peeple pronounce "egg" as /eIg/. Is it true?>>
Yes. I'm one of them, since I have "-eg" raising (but not "-ag" raising) for many words with "-eg" (but not all, interestingly enough). Actually, since I tend not to have diphthongal /o/ or /e/ in closed syallbles, my "egg" is more like [e:g] instead of [eI:g]. As I said before, this applies to many, if not all words with "-eg" in them in my speech. I have ["r\E:gj@l@`] for "regular" but ["le:g@si] for "legacy." But I think it's safe to say that in monosyllabic words with "-eg" I almost always have [e:g] for me. Compare the following in my speech:
"Greg" [gr\e:g]
"egg" [e:g]
"vague" [ve:g]
"beg" [be:g]
"bag" [b{:g]
"bed" [bE:d]
"peg" [p_he:g]
"pet" [p_hEt]
"paid" [p_he:d]
Yes. I'm one of them, since I have "-eg" raising (but not "-ag" raising) for many words with "-eg" (but not all, interestingly enough). Actually, since I tend not to have diphthongal /o/ or /e/ in closed syallbles, my "egg" is more like [e:g] instead of [eI:g]. As I said before, this applies to many, if not all words with "-eg" in them in my speech. I have ["r\E:gj@l@`] for "regular" but ["le:g@si] for "legacy." But I think it's safe to say that in monosyllabic words with "-eg" I almost always have [e:g] for me. Compare the following in my speech:
"Greg" [gr\e:g]
"egg" [e:g]
"vague" [ve:g]
"beg" [be:g]
"bag" [b{:g]
"bed" [bE:d]
"peg" [p_he:g]
"pet" [p_hEt]
"paid" [p_he:d]
/ɑe æv əm ðə sæɪm əz dʒɪm/:
bag /bæːɡ/
beg /beɡ/
vague /væɪɡ/
/æz fə ðə rest əv kɜːks lɪst/:
greg /ɡreɡ/
egg /eɡ/
bed /bed/
peg /peɡ/
pet /pet/
paid /pæɪd/
bag /bæːɡ/
beg /beɡ/
vague /væɪɡ/
/æz fə ðə rest əv kɜːks lɪst/:
greg /ɡreɡ/
egg /eɡ/
bed /bed/
peg /peɡ/
pet /pet/
paid /pæɪd/
In Minnesota, there is complete -ag and -eg raising, and it is rarely, if ever, noticed. However, today I was watching this movie and some guy said "thank you" and he wasn't -ag raised so it took me a second to understand that he was saying "thank" and not "pant" or something similar.
I thought "angel" and "ancient" were exceptions because of Long-A. But now I think it could be better to retain these spellings.
<<In Minnesota, there is complete -ag and -eg raising, and it is rarely, if ever, noticed. However, today I was watching this movie and some guy said "thank you" and he wasn't -ag raised so it took me a second to understand that he was saying "thank" and not "pant" or something similar.>>
Well that rule's actually a little different since it deals with raising before velar-nasal /N/, and not /g/. For instance, I have full-on front-vowel raising (we're talking about /{/ here but it applies to my /E/ and /I/ too) before velar-nasal /N/ but not at all before /g/. Here's me saying these words:
http://uploadhut.com/view.php/390035.wav
"bag"
"bang"
"ban"
"bake'
"tag"
"tank"
"tan"
"take"
I do have "-eg" raising, however. Here's me saying these words:
http://uploadhut.com/view.php/390031.wav
"led"
"leg"
"late"
"lent"
"length"
"lake"
Well that rule's actually a little different since it deals with raising before velar-nasal /N/, and not /g/. For instance, I have full-on front-vowel raising (we're talking about /{/ here but it applies to my /E/ and /I/ too) before velar-nasal /N/ but not at all before /g/. Here's me saying these words:
http://uploadhut.com/view.php/390035.wav
"bag"
"bang"
"ban"
"bake'
"tag"
"tank"
"tan"
"take"
I do have "-eg" raising, however. Here's me saying these words:
http://uploadhut.com/view.php/390031.wav
"led"
"leg"
"late"
"lent"
"length"
"lake"