Who here pronounces "our" as "are"?

Aidan McLaren   Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:12 am GMT
I am an Australian who uses this variation, is there anyone else here who does the same?
Brady   Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:53 am GMT
I do. I didn't really notice until until you made this topic. It's very common in a standard American English accent.
Lazar   Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:01 am GMT
I almost always pronounce "our" as [ɑɚ], the same as stressed "are".
Meesh   Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:29 am GMT
I've heard that "our" and "are" are homonyms, but this always bugged me because I don't pronounce them the same way at all. As a matter of fact, I don't think many people around me do at all! I live in Southern California, by the way.
Guest   Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:36 am GMT
I live in Southern California and I usually pronounce both as /Ar/. I sometimes pronounce "our" like "hour", which would be /{Ur/.
Guest   Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:39 am GMT
our = auuuwa
are = aaaaa
Aidan McLaren   Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:01 am GMT
So this is an informal way of talking, and usually American? Like saying saying "to" as "ta" instead of "too"?
Travis   Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:15 am GMT
It is a difference between unstressed and stressed pronunciation. Note that pronouncing "our" like stressed "are" is extremely common even in formal speech when not specifically stressed (even though there will be those why pronounce "are" like "hour" all the time in formal speech as well). As for pronouncing "to" as [tʰəː] rather than [tʰuː] is again a matter of stress, except that pronouncing "to" as [tʰuː] is far more common than pronouncing "our" like "hour", and in formal speech one will common hear such favored over pronouncing "to" as [tʰəː], unlike with pronouncing "our" like stressed "are".
guest   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:06 pm GMT
At first, I thought I might pronounce 'our' as 'are', but then I listened to myself and I do make a very slight distinction (even in unconscious speech).

I pronounce 'our' as / O:Ur\ / or / O:_w3 / and 'are' as / A:r\ /

I do not pronounce 'our' as / aU_w3 /, which sounds like 'hour'. Were I to stress it, I would say / aUr\ / which is shorter
guest   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:08 pm GMT
btw, I reside in the Southeastern US; however, I am not originally from the area in which I live. I have moved around extensively all my life, so I do not have any noticeable regional US accent
DX   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:23 pm GMT
Most English people pronounce our as Ah.
Aidan McLaren   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:41 pm GMT
So are you English, DX?
Lazar   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:50 pm GMT
<<So this is an informal way of talking, and usually American? Like saying saying "to" as "ta" instead of "too"?>>

I would disagree on both counts. Even in speech at the highest level of formality, I would still pronounce "our" as [ɑɚ] and "to" as [tə]. And there's definitely nothing American about them: [ɑ:] is the predominant pronunciation of "our" in British English - the Australians have their own pronunciation, [æʊ] -, and I think every native speaker of English would pronounce "to" as [tə] in connected speech.
Lazar   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:53 pm GMT
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that you were in fact Australian. But anyway, I think [æʊ] is predominant in Australia (at least from the Australians I've heard), whereas I'm pretty sure that [ɑɚ]/[ɑ:] is predominant in North America and Britain.
Aidan McLaren   Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:58 pm GMT
I definetly pronounce it A: