Native Engilsh Speakers

praveen   Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:13 pm GMT
hi friends, i wish to say that there are no set standards for fluency or to determine whether u speak like native speakers or not. In my opinion if we speak *grammatically correct* with *understandible rate of speech* then i think, we can gain fluency with practice. The most crucial part is neutrilize accent, correct pronunciation, and to b wat v r. wat do u think guyz
Travis   Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:55 pm GMT
The thing is that notions like "neutralizing accent", "correct pronunciation", and so on have nothing to do with the fluency of the speech of native speakers. Remember that native speakers are almost certain to speak some dialect that is outside of the artificial "standard" forms which have been established as the literary and formal spoken languages. For example, I do not have what most North American English-speakers would probably view as a "neutral accent", and there are most definitely aspects of my pronunciation which English-speaking prescriptivists would definitely not view as "correct", and yet that makes me no less fluent in English, one way or another.
Mxsmanic   Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:30 am GMT
You speak like a native if people don't notice that you speak like a "foreigner." The standard you have to meet in order to create this impression depends a great deal on the exact circumstances. In large cities, where there are many native speakers from many different areas, people are accustomed to hearing tiny differences in speech between one native speaker and another, and so you can easily pass as a native yourself if you are quite fluent. In a small and isolated town, on the other hand, even a native speaker might sound like a "foreigner," because his speech will likely differ slightly from the very homogenous standard of the small town.

Some features of speech are never encountered among native speakers of English, and if these features are present in your own speech, people will consider you a non-native speaker no matter where you are. For example, a uvular fricative r-sound is unknown in English, so if you pronounce your r-sounds that way, everyone will know that you are not a native speaker. However, other speech features do occur in some varieties of native English, and if you happen to use any of these, people may simply assume that you are from "somewhere else," but they won't necessarily think that you are a non-native speaker.
tangzinew   Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:37 am GMT
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