To the English people here: Celtic or Anglo-Saxon bloodline?

Damian in Edinburgh   Sun May 11, 2008 1:42 pm GMT
1 Take out your "British made atlas"

2 Turn to the page showing a map of the Southern Atlantic Ocean

3 Look at the eastern coastline of the South American Continent

4 Glance downwards along this coastline - Brazil > Urugay > the
estuary of the River Plate

5 South of this is Argentina

6 Continue southwards down the Argentina coast until you are about
3/4 down then stop dead in your tracks.

7 Head eastwards out to sea for a few hundred miles until you come
across a scattered group of islands

8 You have reached the Malvinas - but on your map the name you will
see on your British made atlas is the Falkland Islands, cap. Port

I suspect you may well have known this all along, you coorse wee laidron! :-)

Head back due west until you hit the coast of Argentina again - you should be in a region called Patagonia. Did you know that in Patagonia many of the people are bi-lingual - they speak fluent Spanish (naturally) but can you guess in which other Language they are fluent? No it's NOT English, nor is it any other major European Language - but it is a European Language nonetheless, and a very old one at that........

Think Eisteddfod and hwyl fawr and bara brith and cwrw a caws and you've got it!


5 Continue southwards
Earle   Mon May 12, 2008 2:51 am GMT
What the hell is this new made-up phrase "infame people?'' Do you mean "infamous?" If so, you are using it improperly, if you're trying to use proper English...
guest   Tue May 13, 2008 11:07 pm GMT
<< Anglosaxons are avid predators by nature.>>

But the Kernewek will rise again I tell you ! Agan deth, awra dos !
Dale Winton   Sun May 18, 2008 8:47 pm GMT
Not everyone in Britain is darkskinned, sweetheart.
Bob Monkhouse   Sun May 18, 2008 8:50 pm GMT
I went to Patagonia but the Gonias didn't like it.
BJ   Sun May 18, 2008 9:26 pm GMT
Heh. That's like a joke we have out here in California.

"I went to Petaluma, but the Luma's didn't like it."
BJ   Sun May 18, 2008 9:27 pm GMT
Oops. Correction: "...the Luma didn't like it."
Bill from Warwick   Thu May 22, 2008 1:48 am GMT
Oh please, these people drive on the wrong side of the road and all you can think about is eye color?
CJ   Thu May 22, 2008 11:25 pm GMT
English people are predominantely Anglo-Saxon, Jute, Dane, Norman with a Celtic minority while their Royals are mainly Germanic. In 1714 the English government invited Georg von Braunschweig-Länberg to be King of Great Britain and Ireland. Georg was Duke and Elector of Hanover. He was made George I because he was a Protestant - the idea being to prevent a Catholic coming to the throne even if they had a better successional claim. Georg’s mother was Sophia Wittelsbach, and her mother, in turn, was Elizabeth, daughter of James I, who had married Friedrich V, King of Bohemia. Thus royal watchers could claim a distant female link to the Stuart dynasty. The von Braunschweig-Länberg family settled in and to help the natives - because von Braunschweig-Länberg is a wee bit difficult to pronounce - they became the Hanoverian dynasty. However, Georg spent most of his time in Hanover where he died in 1727. He never learnt English and his cabinet had to discuss matters with him in French. The dynasty also maintained its German cultural background. From 1714 through to 1901 the kings always married to a German spouse and ensured that every ‘English’ king had a German born mother and a German-speaking father. German was the natural language of the court. When Victoria came to the throne, while she spoke English, German was her language of preference. The dynasty of von Braunschweig-Länberg remained until Victoria married a German cousin. His name Albrecht von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha. Of course during WWI the Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha family changed their name to the Windsor family and later in 1947 Philip von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg married into the family.
Chris   Sat May 24, 2008 12:37 pm GMT
CJ, what is the point of your post? Surely you realise that the Queen, the present incumbent, is not fully Germany by extraction. Her father George VI was almost wholly German in his ancestry, but the Queen is half-Scottish on her mother's side. I thought people knew this!!

Prince Charles: once again largely German by extraction due to Prince Philip (belonging to Greek an Danish royal families that were also wholly Germany in origin), with one-quarter Scottish ancestry.

Prince William: the first majority British heir to the throne by extraction for a long time, owing to Princess Diana. Queen Anne was only half British by ancestry. The last king with a clear majority of British ancestry was of course James VI and I.
Guest   Sat May 24, 2008 11:19 pm GMT
Welsh language is all but dead in Argentina.
Wintereis   Sun May 25, 2008 7:09 am GMT
The Royalty of Europe, nothing but a bunch of inbred lay-a-bouts—especially the English Royal Family. The only good one died in a horrible car accident. The rest have severe mental problems. If you need an example see the little inbred boy playing the banjo in "Deliverance":

Isn't he the spitting image of Harry?
In the U.S. the inbred are restricted to the hill country of the South. In England, you give them crowns and bow to them all because they forget to say their R’s before a consonant.
wintereis   Sun May 25, 2008 7:24 am GMT
It turns out the same thing can be said about the U.S. presidents:
Betty Swollocks   Sun May 25, 2008 9:52 am GMT
Is Wintereis a mongrel?
guest   Sun May 25, 2008 12:56 pm GMT
<<once again largely German by extraction due to Prince Philip>>

Philip von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg - whose parents had tried to pass as Greeks in order to sit on the Greek throne but had been kicked out in 1922 - came to the UK in 1937. This could have been a recipe for disaster. Philip had been educated in Germany near Lake Konstanz; a place called Schloss Salem, founded by Prince Max von Baden and Kurt Hahn. It was based on the Nazi’s educational philosophy. Hahn initially supported the Nazis until it was discovered he had some Jewish ancestry whereupon he left for Scotland.

Philip’s sister had married a cousin, Prince Christoph of Hesse. Prince Christoph had joined the Nazi Party in 1933 and by 1935 was a standartenführer (colonel) of the SS on the personal staff of Heinrich Himmler and chief of the forschungsamt (directorate of scientific research) - in reality a special intelligence operation using new electronic intelligence gathering methods. Their son was named Karl Adolf after Hitler and Philip afterwards took a keen educational interest in his nephew. Perhaps the family was spared some embarrassment when the Prince of Hesse was killed on active service in 1943. His sister was killed in an Allied bombing raid.

Another of Philip’s sisters Cecilia was married to Georg Donatus, Grand Duke of Hesse-by-Rhine, also a great-grandson of Queen Victoria. They died when the Luftwaffe Junker aircraft, personally supplied by Herman Göring to allow them to attend Georg’s brother’s wedding, crashed. Another relative of Philip was the Prussian Prince Bernhard von Lippe who joined the Nazis while studying at the University of Berlin in 1934 and worked openly in the motorised SS. According to Newsweek (April 5, 1976) it was known that Prince Bernhard was a member of a special SS intelligence unit in IG Farben and this had originally been pointed out in testimony at the Nuremberg trials. Bernhard resigned from the SS, in 1937, when he married the future Queen Juliana of the Netherlands. Adolf Hitler forwarded a congratulatory message though Bernhard, who became a naturalised Dutchman

Philip and Bernhard remained not just distant relatives but close friends and in October, 1961, founded the World Wildlife Fund. Prince Philip rather ruined his image more recently when, doubtless filled with nostalgia for his days at Schloss Salem, he told a journalist that he hoped to be ‘reincarnated as a deadly virus’ to solve ‘population problems’ in the world !

At the age of sixteen, in November, 1937, Philip joined his former headmaster Kurt Hahn in Scotland where he had established a new school called Gordonstoun. Hahn was also advising the UK Foreign Office on German affairs and urging a policy of appeasement based on appeals to ‘centrist’ Nazis.

Things were upset when, in spite of the strong appeasement lobby among the English establishment, England and Germany went to war again. What’s more Hitler had developed a plan to invade England and replace George VI with his older brother Edward (who had abdicated in 1936). Edward was much more amenable to Adolf and his ideas. Philip, who had just joined the Royal Navy, was told to change his name to that of his uncle - not von Battenburg but Mountbatten.