World languages

Guest   Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:01 am GMT
<< ¿He dicho yo algo sobre esto?. De todas formas no sé si lo hablan pero lo que sí sé es que sí lo escuchan, 2 ejemplos: >>

They listen to Spanish to learn? Ha ha ha ha don't be obsessed. They would rather learn English, French, or German. The Spanish language transmission is from Russia and it's for Hispanic America and they could not tune their TV to Spanish language because it's not available in their airwaves.
JLK too   Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:24 am GMT
<< In European Union there are several surveys about languages. English is the most spoken language including second speakers. German is second and French is THIRD. >>

That's not true. The languages that have the largest number of native speakers in Europe is Russian, German, French, and Italian. German has more non-native speakers in E. Eastern Europe than French but the latter has at least 10% in that region. But it has more non-native speakers in Western Europe such as UK, Spain, Port. Italy, Ireland, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, and Serbia. So if you add the non-native speakers in those countries plus those in Eastern Europe plus those in Germany, Austria, and German Switzerland, the number exceeds that of German's.

<< In Africa, Arabic is first. That is clear. It is very difficult to know which is second, but probably is Swahili. English, including Nigerian English, is likely to be third, thanks to Nigeria and South Africa, very populated countries. French is probably FOURTH or fifth depending on speakers of Hausa. That is not an attack against French language. That is only the truth.

You don't speak the truth. As far as numbers are concerned 175 million Africans, or 20% of the total population, speak an Arabic dialect. Considering the lack of intelligibility between Arab dialects in Northern Africa this isn't that significant. Egyptians can't understand Moroccans and visa-versa. 115 million+ people in Africa speak French and this covers the vast majority of western Africa, a huge area, larger than the Anglo or Arab-speaking regions in Africa. Swahili and Hausa are nowhere near to comparing with this. To genuinely get a feel for Africa and to see it in it's full glory, one only needs English and French, no other languages in Africa matter... >>

No I'm not lying because the most widely used language in Africa is French and even North Africans prefer to use it than Standard Arabic in education, government, and business. The number of French speakers in Sub-Saharan French Africa is growing and English doesn't have native speakers outside South Africa. Even if Nigeria has a large number of secondary speakers of English because of its huge population, it's not enough to outnumber the secondary because there are considerable number of non-native speakers in that country. As for Swahili, nobody speaks it as a native language in Tanzania, Kenya, and Uganda but it's just a scondary languages like the role Bahase Indonesia.

Actually Spanish is a minority language in Bolivia, Peru, and ECuador because majority of the people there speak Quechua or Aymara; Guatmela because most speak Quiche; Puerto Rico becuase most speak Boriqueño, a speech closer to Papiamento, Chvacano, and Papiamento; Spain because most speak either Catalan, Basque, Galician, Asturian, Leonese, Aragonese and other Spanish dialects which are now not only being revived and promoted but being petitioned as separate languages from Castilian; finally in Mexico, the number of Nahuatl speakers and monolingual speakers of it are rapidly growing and linguist experts predict that it will outnumber the speakers of Spanish because many Mexicans are beginning to re-asser their Mayan heritage. So you're the one who is lying. and I'm not attacking the Spanish language because that's the truth.
Guest   Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:26 am GMT
<< South Africa and Canary Islands are pretty developed, but they don't speak French. >>

They do because in both countries French is required in High School Curricula.
Guest69   Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:59 pm GMT
Vamos a ver, tenemos la tremenda suerte de hablar una de las tres lenguas internacionales, sin olvidar a otros idiomas.

El inglés, el frances y el español, se hablan en las principales organizaciones internacionales, se estudian en las principales universidades de todo el mundo, etc.

El francés y el español tienen sus zonas de influencia y no se hacen competencia directa en ninguna zona del mundo.

En definitiva, tenemos los anglos, los francófonos y los hispanos una gran suerte por hablar estos idiomas.
Guest   Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:15 pm GMT
They do because in both countries French is required in High School Curricula.

Now it is required but not some years ago. Appart from that to study French does not mean to learn French. Spanish studients know English better than French despite French may be closer to Spanish. French is taught in ESO but not in EGB. They are two different Education Systems. I studied EGB and I'm 24 years old.

Al que ha dicho que Gabón es desarrollado: tío, deja las setas.
Guest   Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:28 pm GMT
Germans = scheisse