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Italian in Argentina
Is it true that Italian is spoken in Argentina...
I found this, and I'm wondering if it's true http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina#Language Thanks in Advance!
According to a survey, there are around 1,500,000 Italian speakers and 1,000,000 speakers of Levantine Arabic,
In reality it's not Italian but the Napolitan dialect. Anyway you forgot to mention that according to the same survey new generations switch to Spanish. This is the full paragraph :
According to a survey, there are around 1,500,000 Italian speakers[69] (which makes it the second most spoken language in the country) and 1,000,000 speakers of Levantine Arabic,[69] but these numbers are probably no longer current, as the newer generations mostly switch to Spanish and do not speak the ancestral language in the home. The same phenomenon applies to the Galician language that was used by many Spanish immigrants, Yiddish, and Japanese. The usage of these languages is in decline, as the respective immigration waves ended in the first half of the 20th century.
No one speaks Italian in Argentina, the last Italians that arrived to Argentina came more than 50 years ago, and they all had to learn Spanish.
<<Those Italians in Argentina spoke Napolitan, not fine Italian.>>
Nevermind. Argentinian Italianized pronunciation is way easier to understand than Spanish Castilian!
"Nevermind. Argentinian Italianized pronunciation is way easier to understand than Spanish Castilian!"
>That is absurd, they don't pronounce all the S's, which technically makes it incorrect, although Spaniards don't pronounce all the S's either, there are only two countries that do pronounce all the letters and neither Spain nor Argentina are.
I'm Spanish an I pronounce all the S's. The Argentinians are not the ones who drop more S's either. It's the Cubans.
This is one of those topics that just refuse to go away. The wikipedia article is misleading. It says:
"A phonetic study conducted by the Laboratory for Sensory Investigations of CONICET and the University of Toronto showed that the accent of the inhabitants of Buenos Aires (known as porteños) is closer to the Neapolitan dialect of Italian than any other spoken language." The actual study, entitled "Convergence and intonation: historical evidence from Buenos Aires Spanish" definitely does not state or imply that Italian is (widely) spoken in Argentina. The point is that the intonational patterns of SPANISH as it is spoken in Buenos Aires are related to the intonational patterns of a particular type of ITALIAN accent.
Even if the Italians who are living in Argentina has Neapolitan as their native speech I'm so sure that they speak and write the standard form too. And don't be so sure that just 1.5 million speak it. You can never tell that most of them do speak it but in a discrete way.
Italians in Argentina control the economy and politics plus the seat of Roman Catholicism is in Italy. So in the near future they will take over the country and impose the Italian language and culture. ASPETTARE PER LA REPUBBLICA DI ARGENTINA CON L'ITALIANO COME LA SUA LINGUA UFFICIAL E NAZIONAL.
Even if the Italians who are living in Argentina has Neapolitan as their native speech I'm so sure that they speak and write the standard form too. And don't be so sure that just 1.5 million speak it. You can never tell that most of them do speak it but in a discrete way.
Oh yes, sure. Italians in Argentina control the economy and politics plus the seat of Roman Catholicism is in Italy Can you prove that? Kirchner doesn't sound very Italian to me. Anyway If the Argentinians with Italian ancestry control the economy that may be the reason why Argentina is poor now.
"I'm Spanish an I pronounce all the S's. The Argentinians are not the ones who drop more S's either. It's the Cubans."
>Really, have you ever being to Argentina or hear a Andaluz speaking?...
"Italians in Argentina control the economy and politics plus the seat of Roman Catholicism is in Italy. So in the near future they will take over the country and impose the Italian language and culture. "
>You are crazy, there are no Italians in Argentina any more, they all stopped coming years ago and now they all speak Spanish, besides why would they want to drop a world language like Spanish for an insignificant language like Italian?
"there are only two countries that do pronounce all the letters and neither Spain nor Argentina are"
If so, what are the two countries? Colombia and Peru? Mexico and Ecuador? Bolivia and Guatemala? I thought that any of those (or at least many regions in those countries), pronounces all the letters, as well as northern and central Spain. |